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Hi y’all! I don’t know what I’d do without y’all right now and I know you’ve answered potty training questions until you feel you may find a nice corner to pee in yourselves! But.... overall Jojo is absolutely a dream puppy! Potty training is going mostly as expected but that really means not as well as I would like! My big question is; is it normal for her to pee in her pen? She doesn’t have accidents in her crate. I never with the exception of night time leave her in the crate longer than 2 hours. I use her pen when we leave the house and sometimes when we are home and just when I need to not watch her to get some things done. She’s never been left for longer than 3 hours anyplace. She ALWAYS pees in her pen!! Yesterday I left her with an indoor fake grass potty. I really don’t want her to potty in the house at all but figured if she was peeing in the pen anyway she may as well have a place to do it. In the three hours we were gone for breakfast and church she peed 6 times! Three on the potty and three off! Will she learn naturally not to go in her pen? Will the fake grass potty help or confuse her? She is very tiny! 13 weeks now but still only 2 1/2 lbs. Thank you!!!
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Hi there. She is definitely tiny. This also means she has a tiny bladder. Izzie is a little younger but larger. I understand how you feel about the potty inside of the house but make sure you are taking her outside on a regular schedule. I don't feel the fake grass is confusing her. Keep in mind 3 hours is a long time for a young puppy and especially with a tiny bladder. The older she gets the longer she will be able to hold. We are in this together. Don't feel like you are alone. I had to get some encouragement on another issue just yesterday. Puppyhood requires support and patience. Izzie uses a litterbox in her expen and I have an extra litter box in case she is playing and can't hop back in quick enough. I am taking her outside hourly to use the potty outside. Establish a schedule and stick to it as best as you can. Remember to take your puppy outside after sleeping, eating, and playing as well. I am no expert and I can't recall how long it took my other pups to be reliable. I do recall a lot of running outside day and night. It doesn't matter though because each puppy experience is different ( I am learning all over again). Congratulations on JoJo!

Sounds like you have a Pee Pee Princess and I have a Baby Shark.
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Thank you so much for your encouragement, Vartina! She’s left three hours only when we need to leave her. Mostly right now that’s just church as I don’t work outside my home and my husband is working from home and my son is home going taking his classes online. I look forward to being able to leave her in her pen, where she has a bit of room to play and I don’t need to have eyes on her and know she won’t potty! I love your baby shark and pee pee princess assessment! Ha ha! I think she will outgrow this. Patience and consistency! Right??
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Molly was potty trained using a crate. She also never had an accident in the crate. I used a pen to give her more space when I couldnít keep eyes on her every second, but not when I was expecting her to potty. That is where all her accidents happened. If you want to use the pen for extended periods of time you definitely need an indoor potty set up in there. At first you need to make the area smaller, until Jojo is using the tray all the time with no accidents. Then you can gradually enlarge the pen. Good luck!



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Thank you, Molly looks very little too! Jojo’s mom was 7 1/2 lbs and her dad 13. I think Jojo will end up much more like her mom. I think her tiny size has something to do with potty training but I don’t really know. She does have accidents outside the pen but they are rare as I take her out every 1/2 hour. I really don’t want her to potty inside at all but can see the use of the indoor potty for while she is little and we need to leave for longer. I don’t want her in her crate during the day for longer than 2 hours while she naps. Usually she’s there for about an hour or 1 1/2 hours; then out to potty, play, potty, eat and have tricks for treats, potty, back to crate for nap time, start again! That’s pretty much the cycle. But now after she’s been here for nearly a month we have some normal life things that require her to be left for a bit a couple times a week. Also I’d like her to see her pen as her room and use it as she grows as a place she can be comfortably if there are times I just need her out from underfoot from time to time and when we leave the house. I don’t see myself as ever being the type that could leave a dog to roam while I’m not home. Her pen is set up in a very large closet under the kitchen stairs. I sectioned off part of it with a gate and have all her puppy stuff on shelves in the front. The gate slates were to wide and she could walk right out so I just set up an expen in there. My kids say she’s like Harry Potter living in the cupboard under the stairs! Ha ha! It’s good for me to know Molly also has accidents in her pen!
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I use the crate for sleeping at night. However, I do have the litterbox in Izzie's expen. I like the idea of more space to play and move around. Izzie doesn't pees in her litterbox in the expen. I gave her too much freedom the other day and she peed under my table . We don't have carpet thank goodness but it was my fault.
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How big is it? I would try to configure the pen smaller, or leave her in the crate instead. If sheís okay in the crate for 2 hours, and youíve left her that long s few times, I think you can push it to 3.

If you decide to indoor train, now is the time, but she doesnít need a space bigger than enough room to lay down and her potty tray. Iíd consider placing the pad from her crate in the expen if you can, because she already does not want to pee on what youíre using in the crate. Donít feel like you need to give her room to play when you use the expen. Sheís not ready for it. The small space will help her feel secure while youíre gone, whether itís in the crate or the expen.

In general, if sheís still adjusting to being left alone, isnít home alone often, or if she hears noise outside, she might not be able to hold it as long as she usually can. If she isnít alone often, Iíd try to schedule some time to get everyone out of the house, even if itís just to go for a walk without her, to give her more practice. The accidents might be less of a problem if you decide to go with indoor potty, but it might be contributing and itís good for her either way.

If you do want her to use the indoor potty, I donít think sheíll figure it out if itís just there while youíre gone. Unless I misunderstood? I think indoor training is really useful, and I really suggest it if you can. It is easy to start taking her outside down the line, and it makes the first six months of potty training much easier. But in order for her to learn to use it, I think she needs consistent access to it. A lot of people take their dogs outside but have a potty tray for backup when theyíre not home. But in that case, itís an older puppy or dog has already learned how to use it.

This is the hardest part! Potty training is a long road, but it wonít be like this the whole time. Once you have these things set up, itíll be a much easier road to travel
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Thank you so much EvaElizabeth! These are great thoughts! I had thought of the pen as a place for her to play independently and learn to be alone. I can definitely configure it smaller. We left her in her crate at the hotel when we went out to dinner for 2 hours with no problem. Also I move her crate into her pen during the day always so she gets used to being there! I think she’s just not ready for the pen yet. The indoor potty is confusing ME even it not her ha ha!
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I thought I’d post a pic of Jojo’s cupboard under the stairs and her pen set up with the potty in it. Though I’m thinking we won’t use the potty and wait a bit to leave the crate door open in her pen. When she’s older I will put a dog bed there and use a gate to make the closet smaller instead of the pen.
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You baby is WAY!! TOO YOUNG for you to expect him to be housebroken. It has NOTHING TO DO with the dog having a Tiny Bladder. Tiny dogs have Tiny Bladders. Big dogs have Big Bladders. All bladders work the same way.

It will be almost a year or more before your baby will be Truly Trustworthy and ONLY IF you are VERY!! Consistent and Patient.

Like EvaElizabeth I would recommend Indoor-Potty-Training. It is much easier and quicker. Later JoJo will go outside on his own and you'll also have the convenience of knowing if you can't get home or the dog can't get outside that JoJo will know where the potty tray is and will use it instead of peeing and pooping on the floor.

Lots!! of information on this site about Indoor-Potty-Training.

Just saw your setup. There's too much room in the ex-pen and the puppy will not consistently use the potty tray with this set up. Not sure what your plan is.... Good Luck!
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