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We brought 11 week old puppy Leo home on Saturday, 3 days ago. He is the most adorable thing! We love him-very sweet natured and super smart. Just a dream dog and he has adjusted so quickly to our family! As this is our first experience with puppies, I think we are off to a good start!

He is pee-pad trained and does not soil his crate/xpen set-up. He does tell us when he needs to go as long as he is in his x-pen set-up. The pee-pad is in the laundry room.
So a little walk to get there from his pen. He is having more issues about going outside though, he prefers the indoor place and we are having a tougher time getting him to go
outside. We want him to be indoor and outdoor trained..I hope we are not confusing him by have multiple spots?

We feed him three times a day--roughly-- 8:30, 12:30 and 6pm.. take the water away by
7 pm. Sometimes he eats and sometimes not, but he does eat two good feedings a day.The breeder said to take the food away after 20-30 min if he does not eat at each meal. But the problem is that he does not seem to need to go "potty" the usual 20-30 min after his meal.. although we walk him 20-30 min after his meal to his outside spot or indoor spot. He refuses to do his job and sometimes it takes 1 -2 hours before he does poop after he has eaten his meal. So right now we are on his schedule and not the other way around! Is this normal? How can we change this? My vet has said I need to teach him to do it on command and has suggested umbilical cord training along with the crate. But after he eats.. and all our song and dance of taking him outside, he climbs into his crate and falls asleep. When he wakes up after 1-2 hours.. that is when he wants to do it! But so far he has let us know and has not soiled his crate. We have not had accidents in his crate so far..but this does not seem right either!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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New puppy mom Ahnu and puppy Leo.
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Ahnu,
it sounds like you are doing great so far!! You will eventually get into a routine with him. When he gets older it will be easier to control "when" he goes. Right now as a puppy you should just be happy that he is going and in the right places. Are you in an area with bad weather? Maybe he does not want to go outside in it..
You might want to treat train him when he goes outdoors, have a big "potty party", high voice, happy, clapping etc every time he goes outside. He will eventually LIKE going outside. And then just leave the pad inside for when you are not available to take him out. My pup Laila (almost 6 months) is currently trained on both and does fine!!
I think that you are doing a great job, and things will all fall in place soon.
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Sounds like things are going great!

As for the crate, puppies will not soil their crate if at all possible. My puppy never had a crate accident. Usually the only time a crate accident happens is if you've left them in there for far far too long.

For the not going after he eats, I always limited the outdoor potty times to 15 mins. If my guy didn't go, he went back in his crate for 45 mins. Then I tried again. As Laurie said, when he does go outside - big party, super good treat, then I always did dedicated playtime/training time afterwards for 30 mins or so. I only did outdoor training so he really only had the one option. Others that have done both can chime in.
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Hello.
Not sure this is the correct way to post a new message? I still have not figured out how to post a new thread? If someone could let me know the correct way to post new threads, that would be very helpful! So I hope this works.. I have posted this message twice.. thinking one of the ways will work! So sorry about the repeat!

We brought 11 week old puppy Leo home on Saturday, 3 days ago. He is the most adorable thing! We love him-very sweet natured and super smart. Just a dream dog and he has adjusted so quickly to our family! As this is our first experience with puppies, I think we are off to a good start!

He is pee-pad trained and does not soil his crate/xpen set-up. He does tell us when he needs to go as long as he is in his x-pen set-up. The pee-pad is in the laundry room.
So a little walk to get there from his pen. He is having more issues about going outside though, he prefers the indoor place and we are having a tougher time getting him to go
outside. We want him to be indoor and outdoor trained..I hope we are not confusing him by have multiple spots?

We feed him three times a day--roughly-- 8:30, 12:30 and 6pm.. take the water away by
7 pm. Sometimes he eats and sometimes not, but he does eat two good feedings a day.The breeder said to take the food away after 20-30 min if he does not eat at each meal. But the problem is that he does not seem to need to go "potty" the usual 20-30 min after his meal.. although we walk him 20-30 min after his meal to his outside spot or indoor spot. He refuses to do his job and sometimes it takes 1 -2 hours before he does poop after he has eaten his meal. So right now we are on his schedule and not the other way around! Is this normal? How can we change this? My vet has said I need to teach him to do it on command and has suggested umbilical cord training along with the crate. But after he eats.. and all our song and dance of taking him outside, he climbs into his crate and falls asleep. When he wakes up after 1-2 hours.. that is when he wants to do it! But so far he has let us know and has not soiled his crate. We have not had accidents in his crate so far..but this does not seem right either!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
New puppy mom Ahnu and puppy Leo.
I think it sounds like everything is good. Your puppy lets you know when he has to go I can see it being a problem if you have to get off to work. Sometimes my puppys need to get some exercise before they will poop. Maybe the 15min could be on a walk. How old is Leo?

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Sounds like things are going great! We love pictures by the way! Hint Hint

I have always let all of my dogs free feed. There have never been issues with this. They have always gotten along, no jealousy issues or being overweight. The only time I pull food and/or water is the night before a surgery or test. I also pull the food at 7 pm the night before an appointment with the groomer. The groomer is great about taking them out for a potty break but I hate to think they would be in a cage and have to go.

Good luck with your new pup and remember we love pictures!

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Thanks for the support everyone! Glad to know we are on the right track. Suzi- Léo is 11 weeks old. He has been great.. except for this minor potty issue. It is 3 pm on the East Coast right now and he has not done the "poop" all day.. and yes, he did eat breakfast and lunch ( 1/4- 1/3 cup IAMS at each feeding) . He has gone out several times to pee. We have walked him, played with him through out the day! He seems to like to go in the evening, in general, so a little off schedule! But, I guess we will just keep an eye on him and hope that he gets on schedule soon! Luckily we are on spring break for two weeks now.. so we are all focused on Léo and nothing else! LOL : )
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Hello.
Thanks for the support everyone! Glad to know we are on the right track. Suzi- Léo is 11 weeks old. He has been great.. except for this minor potty issue. It is 3 pm on the East Coast right now and he has not done the "poop" all day.. and yes, he did eat breakfast and lunch ( 1/4- 1/3 cup IAMS at each feeding) . He has gone out several times to pee. We have walked him, played with him through out the day! He seems to like to go in the evening, in general, so a little off schedule! But, I guess we will just keep an eye on him and hope that he gets on schedule soon! Luckily we are on spring break for two weeks now.. so we are all focused on Léo and nothing else! LOL : )
Oh I guess i didn't read that he might be constipated? I hear pumpkin helps both with loose stools and constipation. The kind in the can pure pumpkin. I am not sure how much Not more than a tea spoon? Did you change his food from the breeder? If he is just fine than you are lucky he only goes at night. That is nice you have all that time right now for him.

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Hello.
Thanks for the support everyone! Glad to know we are on the right track. Suzi- Léo is 11 weeks old. He has been great.. except for this minor potty issue. It is 3 pm on the East Coast right now and he has not done the "poop" all day.. and yes, he did eat breakfast and lunch ( 1/4- 1/3 cup IAMS at each feeding) . He has gone out several times to pee. We have walked him, played with him through out the day! He seems to like to go in the evening, in general, so a little off schedule! But, I guess we will just keep an eye on him and hope that he gets on schedule soon! Luckily we are on spring break for two weeks now.. so we are all focused on Léo and nothing else! LOL : )

Our Uno did the same thing, so we gradually extended the interval and trained him to Potty first and then get the food. It's working brilliantly now because he potty's and eats right after that, no more 30-40 minute wait on a Monday morning.
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Hi Suzi.
I don't think he is constipated? At least he was not yesterday. He has basically been like this since we brought him home for some reason--mostly in the evening or late afternoon? But I will keep the pumpkin seeds in mind and see how it goes. He did have his second set of shots on Monday, so maybe a reaction to that? He is very sleepy. No he is still on the same food from the breeder. However, yesterday we may have fed him a few too many snacks.. puppy biscuits that we crushed and we thought we gave him a tiny amount.. but maybe too much for him. We are not giving him any snacks today. But he does not seem uncomfortable and is eating well. So we will see!!
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