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HI....I'm new to the forum. I am anxiously awaiting an 8 week old male havanese in about 3 weeks I plan on having a play pen that will have his crate within it. I've been reading all types of tips, mainly on potty training. Should we start by teaching the dog on the pee pad that would be within the pen? I understand the concept of teaching him to go on that as his "indoor toilet", but it seems counterproductive if you're trying to simultaneously teaching him to go outdoors. Can you/Should you use both at the same time? And if so, how do you get away from the pee pads altogether? What is a realistic timeline to be completely trained to the outside? Thanks
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I did this, mainly because I knew I would be traveling quite a bit with Gucci and wanted her to be able to use the pee pad at hotels or places where she wasn't familiar on how to notify me to go outside. I think it makes housebreaking harder. If you don't have to do both, stick with the outside unless you are leaving them at home without anyone to let them out for more than a few hours.

Gucci goes outside 99% of the time, unless it is raining at night, she'll go on the pad in our bathroom. I have to leave it out, because she thinks that small bath rugs or small rugs are fair game to pee on (no joke) so if I don't put the pad in the bathroom, she'd just pee on the rugs. She is 5 and still thinks they are just plush, fluffy, soft colored pee pads. lol

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HI....I'm new to the forum. I am anxiously awaiting an 8 week old male havanese in about 3 weeks I plan on having a play pen that will have his crate within it. I've been reading all types of tips, mainly on potty training. Should we start by teaching the dog on the pee pad that would be within the pen? I understand the concept of teaching him to go on that as his "indoor toilet", but it seems counterproductive if you're trying to simultaneously teaching him to go outdoors. Can you/Should you use both at the same time? And if so, how do you get away from the pee pads altogether? What is a realistic timeline to be completely trained to the outside? Thanks
Kodi was already pretty well trained to use a litterbox when I got him. We continued to reinforce the use of the litter box. Our experience was that he trained himself to "go outside" for the most part. Obviously, we praised him HUGELY when he went outside, but we really didn't need to specifically teach it. Before long, he showed a clear preference for pooping ouside, and now, he'd rather potty both ways outside if he has the option. But we still keep the litter box because it is so much easier when traveling and in bad weather.


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We had exactly the same experience as Karen did with Kodi except using a pad instead of a litter box. Because we're an older couple and this is a small dog, it is wonderful to have Keeper trained to the pad. He trained himself to the outside which didn't occur until about two months after he was using the pad. He clearly prefers outside and trained himself to it, BUT, in very bad weather and some kind of 'emergency' need, he uses the pad beautifully. I am very glad we did this and the breeder began the pad training early.

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Hi Brooksie,
I have a 13 week old. I was intending on pad training him through the winter and transition him to go outside once the weather improved, however, we've had such a mild winter so far I started taking Timmy outside and he really prefers to go outside. He has started to scratch at the door, which might mean he has to go, so I take him out and he does his business pretty quickly. We got some snow over the weekend and I still took him out, as much as I dislike it, and he wasn't even fazed. I do make him use the pad to pee after he wakes up from a nap, but that's about the only time he uses it. My advice would be to have a plan but be prepared to tweak it as needed. Good luck!!!

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We just got out second pup right after christmas. Our first, we trained him to use the pee pad and go outside at the same time. The pee pad is not to use at all times, but mostly when we are not home or during the night, so we took him out constrantly during the day until he got a hang of it. The only downside with the pad is that he used to rip it in a million pieces and then the pee would go everywhere.

Our second pup is being trained with the litter box and outside. He is still getting a hang of it, but doing much better now. What I love about the litter box (we use wood pellets, the ones you can purchase to burn on a pellet stove) is that it NEVER smells like pee, never! the pee turns the pellets into sawdust and you just scoop it up and put some more. Is awesome.

I think is great to teach them to go outside from an early age, if you have the option. Indoor potty I see it more as an emergency or night use.

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I have an 8 month old and I trained him only outside. I was the same way, figured it might be counter-productive. He rings a bell to go out and was pretty easy to train.
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I did this, mainly because I knew I would be traveling quite a bit with Gucci and wanted her to be able to use the pee pad at hotels or places where she wasn't familiar on how to notify me to go outside. I think it makes housebreaking harder. If you don't have to do both, stick with the outside unless you are leaving them at home without anyone to let them out for more than a few hours.

Gucci goes outside 99% of the time, unless it is raining at night, she'll go on the pad in our bathroom. I have to leave it out, because she thinks that small bath rugs or small rugs are fair game to pee on (no joke) so if I don't put the pad in the bathroom, she'd just pee on the rugs. She is 5 and still thinks they are just plush, fluffy, soft colored pee pads. lol

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For those of you who only trained outside, what did you do at night for the first few months? I can't imagine getting up every few hours during the night...but if I have to, I will.

I'm new here. We'll be picking up Geoffrey the end of February and he will be 8 weeks.
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If you only want to train for outdoors, then you have to be willing to get up with the puppy at night, as often as necessary for as long as necessary.

Why would you not want to also have an indoor option for your pup?


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