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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-29-2012, 09:54 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy 1st Day and Last Day At Puppy Class

Cooper had 1 day of puppy school today for 2 hours. I hate to say it but I was not too happy. He did great but one of the other puppies was a pit bull and was trying so hard to get Cooper. Not to play but to get at him of course that set the pace of the class. The trainer was informative and helped us with any problems we were having at home. She showed us many things and all based around reward reinforcement, which is fine, I do that at home. The problem was Cooper is so small he gave up taking the treats and had a sick look on his little furry face. So when we finally got home he slept and now tonight he has runny poops and has been sleeping way too long. Doesn't even want to play. I am hoping he will be himself by tomorrow?

We have decided not to return next week. Wasn't what I was expecting and am very disappointed. We figured we learned the ins and outs of any minor problems we are having with Cooper and will not put him through that experience again.

I have learned more here about potty training etc. I printed some of the info out so hubby can read it and understand what I am doing. So after a day from he(2 toothpicks) I want to say thank you all for the information,devotion and understanding you all give to people that are new to the wonderful little Havanese breed.

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I am sorry your little one has had such a negative experience in puppy class. He really does need puppy socialization. I would do two things:

1. Ask for a refund
2. Find a puppy training class dedicated to small breed dogs only.

I live in S.F. and I know that SPCA here offers a puppy class just for small dogs. It's suppose to be wonderful. Can you check your local SPCA or Humane society to see if they offer one like that or search for independent training classes that offer small dogs only classes.

Good luck to you.

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Poor Cooper. He probably had too many treats. Two hours seems like a long class for puppies. Hope he feels better soon.
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2 hours is too long for a puppy, that is even too long for my guys. An hour is about right, occasionally we do a private class and have found an hour one on one is too long, it exhausts my guys, they love training and they are not puppies. If you feel that another dog is unfairly targeting your dog, speak up poliely and firmly tell the other person you feel their dog is a bid aggressive for your dog and you want to set your dog up for success, then keep your dog at the other end of the room. There are often dogs who's owners can not quite understand that it is their responsibility to insure their dog/puppy plays nice in the beginner classes. Do not let it ruin your time with your puppy, the early classes are where you can build a strong bond with your dog as you experience a new very different environment together. Also a beginner class is often the only time your dog will be exposed to so many different dogs at one time (unless you compete in a sport). If you feel you learned enough that is a different matter, but if you feel you want to get more out of training try it again, often after the first class or two people start dropping out.

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I agree completely with Robbie!!!

A small dog class might be nice, but it can work with mixed size puppies too, if it is well-handled by the trainer.

I was at a seminar Sat. where we had the dogs out working for two one-hour sessions, with a rest and potty break in between. Kodi is an experienced adult show dog, who does classes 3 days per week. He was EXHAUSTED when we came home from the seminar. He climbed into his crate and slept all evening. As others have said, two hours is WAY too long for a puppy class.


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Sorry to hear your puppy school wasn't a positive experience. I agree wholeheartedly that two hours is much too long. Augie and I did back-to-back classes of one hour each with a break in between for a session this summer - much too long for the BOTH of us. Won't do it again. And, he has quite a few classes under his belt (collar?) and is older than puppy age. I think your trainer dropped the ball there. She should have noticed what was going on and separated them. I hope you won't give up on classes. I remember the first time Augie and Finn were in classes. The first class was pretty chaotic, but it was amazing to see the difference by the last class of the session.

We didn't know better for Augie's first class. I was giving treats that were too large - and it resulted in him throwing up on the way home and runny poops. I make them teeny sized these days. Also, the first couple of classes, he wanted to stand between my legs - he was a bit overwhelmed. There were large dogs, barking dogs, etc. But classes have given him so much more confidence.

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I did not have a great experience either. Havs are sooooooooooo small compared to other puppies, but I did stick it out. Keep up the training.



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I am a resident of Westfield, MA and I have brought my three pups to Sandy Meadow Farms with trainer Missy Kielbasa also in Westfield for their puppy training and beyond. I am not sure where you reside, but would recommend talking to her about her classes. We were very pleased with her training sessions and my pups did too! Her number is 413 572-4936 and her e-mail is [email protected]. Her website is sandymeadowfarm.com. Her classes usually include 8-10 puppies and one hour long. Hope this can help you with Cooper if you live close to Westfield. Trish
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I am a resident of Westfield, MA and I have brought my three pups to Sandy Meadow Farms with trainer Missy Kielbasa also in Westfield for their puppy training and beyond. I am not sure where you reside, but would recommend talking to her about her classes. We were very pleased with her training sessions and my pups did too! Her number is 413 572-4936 and her e-mail is [email protected]. Her website is sandymeadowfarm.com. Her classes usually include 8-10 puppies and one hour long. Hope this can help you with Cooper if you live close to Westfield. Trish
Thanks Trish I do live near Westfield so that wouldn't be a problem. I do want to continue classes but not where we went yesterday. Thanks again

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so sorry you had a rough experience!!!
we went to 2 different classes about a month ago, given by the same trainers and I was NOT happy and neither was Tillie. The first class we tried was a puppy class. All was good until the end. We should have left, but didn't and they had off leash play... it started out good as they let the puppies off one by one starting with the small ones... then they let the lab mix puppies off... and they SWARMED Tillie, not meaning ANY harm, just wanting to investigate and say HI but Tillie PANIC'd and was CRYING and snapping at them, meanwhile the stupid trainier was squirting her in the face telling me to NOT pick her up ... ya, that SURE helped her fear of bigger dogs!? WTH!!!????
SO, then the following week the trainer wanted us to come to the older dog class, so we did. No off leash, etc. BUT the damage had already been done, or furthered as she was SO scared, tail tucked, would NOT even walk on leash but was frozen... OH and because of what happened with the puppy class they had her "labeled" as an agressive dog with a stupid red bandana and away from the other dogs!!!
The whole REASON for the class was to get her around other dogs in a SAFE environment. Freaking rediculous. I am considering signing her up for classes at PetSmart again, (she took puppy classes there when she was little) I REALLY love the trainer and more importantly the trainer LOVES Tillie. I felt like these other trainers hated her. sigh...
on the other hand we have Tillie "trained" just the way we want her ... why stress her out!!!!?? sigh...

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