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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-31-2012, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
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Timmy has been really good in the potty training area, he's about 14 weeks old, but I do have one question. I tried pad training him but he definitely prefers to go outside to do his business, he scratches on the door to go outside. I have noticed recently, especially when we're all sitting down to eat dinner, he starts scratching but when I take him out he doesn't have to go, ugh.... I have resorted to taking him out and just standing there, no walking around, no sniffing, "Go Potty" etc... so he hopefully knows to do his business and that we're not outside to play. Do you think he knows if he scratches that I come and go out with him, which mean attention? Can I let just let him scratch and not take him out?

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You didn't ask, but I'd definitely try to encourage him to use bells when he needs to go out rather than let him scratch the door. Timmy might be too small now, but one day, he could really wreak havoc

For the other, though, Isabella tended to do that in the beginning. We placed her in her crate or XPen if she didn't do her thing outside, or during the dinner time. But I don't know that letting him signal a need to go out and ignoring the signal would produce positive results, at least it wouldn't fly with Isabella




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Hi Claire,
They're sliding glass doors so I'm not worried he'll ruin them. I didn't think about using the crate, he sleeps in it at night and has no accidents so maybe I'll start putting him in it when we eat so I won't have to ignore his signal.

I think I will need to bell train since sometimes I'm not in the room where he scratches the door and I have missed a few of his signals when I found a poo at the door. My vet said she has had some dogs come in with injuries when their nails get caught in the bell have you heard about that? I could put the bells in a nylon though I guess.

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What signal your pup uses to alert you is less important than that you respond to it EVERY time. You are doing just the right thing by taking him out, but not letting him play when it's potty time. And I agree, it's fine to crate him during dinner if he is interrupting dinner with requests to go out.

Count yourself lucky... Kodi's "requests" to go out were VERY subtle when he was young. He'd go and LOOK at the door. (which was not always within our sight!) This meant that we were really responsible for knowing his schedule, and making sure he got out when he needed to go. It took until he was nearly two before he started barking to ask to go out. We tried the bells faithfully for several months, but he NEVER caught on, even though he's very smart about other things, and the only result was that the bells swinging against the door were scratching the door. Bells work for some dogs but not for all. They are worth a try, though!


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I have 3 and they all do something different....Misty uses bells...Smokey rings the doorstop on the back of the door and Sissy stares at you hard and whines......and YES they have all 'faked' having to go potty lol and YES if they give the signal you have to take them out...but don't let them play and if it's beginning to be a habit everytime you sit down for dinner then crating may be necessary to break it......good luck!
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My vet said she has had some dogs come in with injuries when their nails get caught in the bell have you heard about that? I could put the bells in a nylon though I guess.
Yikes! No, I hadn't heard of that. Hhmmmm, I wonder if a large traditional shaped bell would be better than the jingle bells Isabella uses?




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I have always used traditional Bell shaped bells as opposed to "jingle bells" ... I don't think there is any way they can get a claw stuck with those bells.
besides, my girl actually rings it with her nose. she has NEVER used her paw.

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we do bells, Coach uses them if he wants to go outside to pee, to poop, to run around in prep for a poop, if his water dish is empty, if his food dish is empty if he wants us to play...

it's basically his signal that he needs attention. If I know he doesn't have unmet needs I will pull up the bells so that we can get some peace and quite.

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I say thank your lucky stars that he is scratching at the door to go out. Maybe he is faking at times, but that also means that he pees outside at least some of those times and does NOT pee inside, you are way ahead of the curve. It took ages to get Marley to make that connection (I think he was about 6 months when he finally start making noise at the door when he wanted to go out).
Marley is also very used to hearing me say "go potty, Marley" when he just sniffs around and he will go eventually even if it's just a little piddle.
I would definitely not NOT take him out.
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Hi all, thanks for your responses. I put Timmy in his crate last night at dinner and he did great, it was nice to sit down and eat my whole dinner without having to get up. I think I'm going to continue with this since he didn't whine at all, I was concerned he'd think his crate was punishment and fight me going in at night, but I guess he likes it.

I am going to re-think about the bell training option, I hadn't thought of a cow bell shape. Timmy is now allowed in the kitchen with me while I'm cooking dinner etc... so I won't miss his door scratching. I have a bed in there that he knows to sit in (most of the time) especially if I give him his "hoofie" anyone else have one of those? It smells gross, but he loves it.

Yes I feel very fortunate that Timmy seems to be doing so well with house training, now I just have to train the rest of my family. My next task is to try and cut down on the puppy barking!

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