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Unhappy chronic diarreah

I am new to the forum and really learning a lot. I have had many dogs over my 60plus years. My 2 new Havies have had diarreah on and off for 21/2 months. The 4 dogs, that I have now, have all been treated for parasites with 2 different meds. (Flagyl, Panacur & Albon for diarreah ) the 2 new Havies had bacterial infection in stool so were on Clavamox. The new Havie pup, has been tested positive for MRSA in the urine and is now on chloramphenicol! Fortunately all the other 3 dogs tested negative for the MRSA.

The 2 dogs I have had for years are doing fine. The 2 new Havies continue to have diarreah. I will put them back on white rice and chicken (cooked).

Have you found that this breed needs a chicken diet? The kibble is top brand (Fromm) 3 of my 4 dogs are on it. The new Havie pup is on Wellness puppy canned in addition to the Fromm kibble , the new Havie adult has Wellness 95% chicken with the Fromm kibble. ( Both Havies came from the same breeder just before the Christmas holiday.)

My eldest dog, an American Eskimo Dog, 14yrs old is on raw Instinct. Doing fine.
In addition my 2yr old Havie/Cavaleir mix is doing fine.
Any thoughts for my2 new Havie girls?

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I am also having a heck of a time potty training the new baby, who is now 5 months old.
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Stop the treats if you are giving any. What amount of food are you feeding? Too much can cause tummy problems.



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impossible to tell , I would consult a nutritonist. We know one if you're interested.

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Is it liquid or very running stools? If it is liquid and your vet can't get it to a soft stage, you may need to seek a second opinion little dogs can have dehydrate quickly. I am thinking you might mean runny loose stools, some of the worm medications cause this and it has to work out of their system. You have to be very vigilant about cleaning up after them when they are on meds. My new dog was treated for tapeworms by my vet as a precaution (here in the south it has been flea season all year, this year), she had runny small stools they smelled bad and my food was too rich for her so it made it worse (poor thing was having her backside washed many times a day) . Finally I put her on purina small kibble with some pumpkin and sometimes boiled chicken in it, slowly I started mixing in the Orijin food, it took little over two weeks. The worse part was someone took my two pooper scoopers so I had to use a giant shovel (who steals pooper scoopers!!!). Hope you get this figured out soon.

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It's possible the food is too rich. She came here having been on Purina kibble and I "upgraded" gradually to Fromm dry and Wellness canned combo.
Our winter her in CT has been exceptionally mild. How do
I keep the area clean, beyond the frequent shovel pick-up? They may BE reinfecting.
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very very tiny biscuits,a few times a day. How much do you feed a 12 lb Havie, 3yrs old?
How much for the 5 month old pup?
Vet said no more than 2/3 to 3/4cup for adult, and about 1 cup a day for the little one. Sound right?
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I think the amount sounds about right. Mine get the runs whenever they eat something new. I cant feed beef or salmon. I may be able to add slower and get the fish into the diet. Try some pumpkin caned kind w/out sugar. I'm not sure about how much. It helps for both the runs and constipation.

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Keeping the yard clean is hard, you have to literally follow your dog and pick up poop right away, if this is impossable you could try confinment to another part of the yard or putting the pups on a leash and taking them in the front or side yard. Just until treatment is complete.

As for how much to feed, each dog is different at meals I feed my dogs according to their weight and activity level, my guys train and are very active they get lots of training treats these are usually home made chicken pieces or beef sometimes cheese, seldom commerical (I do use packaged treats around the house) . If what the vet suggested makes them gain weight give a little less for a week or so then reassess. You'll get it it just takes a bit of time.

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I would highly suggest cutting out the chicken and replacing with beef, lamb or fish. Eli had chronic diarrhea as a puppy. I kept cutting out one food after another not realizing he had a sensitivity to the chicken which was the base of his diet. Once I removed all chicken and turkey product from his diet, he became immediately better. Look at the puppy food labels. Some foods that advertise beef as a primary ingredient may also contain chicken or chicken meal. Avoid these. Also, try giving probiotic. It comes in poweder form and can be sprinkled on food.

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My 11 lb. Hav has better stools with dry dog food. His poop is a bit softer with "moist" food and harder to scoop up. I haven't found treats yet that I like, so I haven't really been giving him any treats. Since I have to pick up his poop outside of the apartment complex, I don't like soft or runny stools. I can barely smell his poop when he eats dry dog food, not to be gross.
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