A Jinx and Gryff update - Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums
Puppy Area * Do not advertise dogs for sale here*

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-25-2012, 07:29 PM Thread Starter
Gryff and Jinx Mommy
 
ivyagogo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Paltz, NY
Posts: 2,346
Submit Photo: 7
Photo Submissions 9 Times in 9 Posts
A Jinx and Gryff update

I just wanted to give you all an update on the dogs. They are getting along amazingly well. Right now, they are both on the floor chewing on the same bully stick. They each have an end just like Lady and the Tramp.

Gryff is being a nicer dog since getting Jinx. He seems more tolerant.

Jinx is really good health-wise. His poops are still a bit soft, but it's not pudding anymore.

The only thing concerning me now is that I've heard Jinx growl at Alec. I don't want to wind up with the same situation where Alec has no dog. Any thoughts on nipping this thing?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_5021.jpg (1.08 MB, 4 views)

ivyagogo is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-25-2012, 09:09 PM
Senior Member
 
Kathie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: SE Georgia
Posts: 4,515
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 12 Times in 12 Posts
Oh, they look so cute together! Jinx is precious!

I don't know what to say about the growls - where is Dave when we need him???

Kathie, Abby & McGee's Mom
Kathie is offline  
post #3 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-25-2012, 09:28 PM
Senior Member
 
angiern2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 547
Submit Photo: 2
Photo Submissions 6 Times in 6 Posts
OMG Jinx is seriously CUTE!!!

Does he feed Jinx? Maybe hand feeding him?

Is there something different about your son during the times Jinx growls at him? For an example, Trooper growled at ME the other day, and I realized that I've had my hair in a ponytail most all the time since we've had Trooper home, and that day I had my hair down. Something about that bugged him I guess, maybe he thought it was a stranger or something, but he got over it real quick when I talked to him and petted him.

Other than those ideas, we need Dave.
angiern2004 is offline  
 
post #4 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-25-2012, 10:04 PM
Senior Member
 
TilliesMom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 5,278
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 36 Times in 36 Posts
Have Alec always bring Jinx a special treat when approaching him. And also maybe talk to your son and tell him not to disturb Jinx when he is sleeping... Tillie will growl like an old lady when she is disturbed while sleeping... LOL

Tammy and Tillie
TilliesMom is offline  
post #5 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 02:43 AM
Camellia Camelo and Carol
 
CarolWCamelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 534
Submit Photo: 0
Photo Submissions 4 Times in 4 Posts
Arrow Calming signals

I'd guess Alec is approaching Jinx in a way Jinx finds a bit scary.

The trick would be to let Jinx approach Alec, rather than the other way around. Let Alec sit down, perhaps on the floor, sideways to Jinx, but not looking at him. Have Alec hold a few really yummy treats in his hand, in his palm. See if Jinx will come up and take them, one by one. (One treat in the hand nearest Jinx, the others in the other hand).

You can read about calming signals here:

http://www.canis.no/rugaas/

Here's a picture of me meeting very traumatized Camellia the day I picked her up; this is the sort of position I mean:

http://www.coherentdog.org/camcome.php

Edit to add information: in the picture, the box in my left hand has the treats in it; I'd take one at a time out of the box, being careful to move very slowly.

Alec should never REACH for Jinx. Best move slowly around Jinx, too, moving in arcs, never approaching directly, never looming over him.

Bet after a time things will settle.

Keep us posted, and ask more questions if they occur to you!

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:42:42 (PDT)

Camellia and Carol (CarolWCamelo)
http://www.coherentdog.org/

Last edited by CarolWCamelo; 03-26-2012 at 02:45 AM. Reason: Add information
CarolWCamelo is offline  
post #6 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 07:12 AM
Senior Member
 
Atticus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: vermont
Posts: 647
Submit Photo: 7
Photo Nominations 1 Time in 1 Post
great ideas! By the way where is Dave? I miss him! Back to the growling, try to figure when it happens, is Jinx jealous of Alec because you are his person? Is he growling in play with Alec or is it just if he walks in the room? We need more info. Glad it's all going well with the 2 pups tho!

Jody ,lucky Mom of Atticus
Atticus is offline  
post #7 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 07:40 AM
Metrowest, MA
 
krandall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,460
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 296 Times in 294 Posts
I agree with Jody that we need more information about when/how this is happening. It might be that Alec is overwhelming Jinx, but it could also just be "puppy play". So much depends on the circumstances, and as carol said, reading "dog language".

In any case, another game that can build value into going to a specific person, and ALSO works to teach name recognition and the start of a great recall is to have Alec sit at one end of a hallway, and another person sit at the other end, both with a number of small treats.(if done near meal time, it can even be the puppy's kibble)

Have one person do something to attract the puppy's attention. This can be calling his name, if he knows it well, or if not, saying "pup, pup, pup" in a high voice while gently patting the ground. (do NOT use the word "come" or any other "permanent" recall word right now!!!) when the pup goes to the person, treats, praise and gentle strokes, then have the other person (Alec) call him. With most puppies, it only takes a few reps before the pup understands the game and is BLASTING up and down the hall. Then add the next step, which is to GENTLY restrain the puppy (just by putting your hands around him) before you give him the treat. Otherwise you can develop the idea that "drivebys" are good enough.

This game will teach Jinx to comfortable approach Alec, and it will teach Alec how to gently interact with Jinx so that Jinx doesn't feel any need to act defensive.

I did talk to Dave a couple of days ago. He has some stuff going on right now that is taking up all his time. He said to say "Hi" to everyone, and say that he'll be back as soon as he can!


Karen, Kodi, Pixel and Panda
(ARCHMX Starborn Kodak Moment CGC, NTD, BN, PCD, NA, NAJ, CDX-CCH, RE, RLV, RL1X3, RL2X4, RL3X3...
plus Starborn's Picture Perfect & Nauti Herd Compact Flash RN, CGC, NTD, SN-C, RL1)






krandall is online now  
post #8 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 10:45 AM
nlb
Nicki:Cassie & Roo's mom
 
nlb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ventura county, CA
Posts: 611
Submit Photo: 2
Photo Submissions 8 Times in 7 Posts
Jinx is adorable, and reminds me of you know who.

Cass would growl at my daughter when she came home from school, but she is very tall and puts her hair back, so Cass didn't recognize her at first.

Lot of good suggestions here so far. Good luck.


Nicki, Cassie, & Roo
nlb is offline  
post #9 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 02:34 PM
Jen, Timmy and Mae
 
jabojenny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Philly Burbs
Posts: 1,672
Submit Photo: 21
Photo Submissions 16 Times in 16 Posts
Yes, lots of good suggestions so far and I can't help in the growling area. Timmy growls when he plays, like when you try to take a toy away, but it's not malicious. I am trying to get him to stop though. Oh and by the way that picture is just so cute. Hopefully I won't see a picture like that in a couple years or I might catch MHS!

jabojenny is offline  
post #10 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 04:28 PM
Metrowest, MA
 
krandall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,460
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 296 Times in 294 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jabojenny View Post
Yes, lots of good suggestions so far and I can't help in the growling area. Timmy growls when he plays, like when you try to take a toy away, but it's not malicious. I am trying to get him to stop though. Oh and by the way that picture is just so cute. Hopefully I won't see a picture like that in a couple years or I might catch MHS!
It's important not to discourage growling. Growling (other than play growling) is a dog's only "early warning system. Dogs who are regularly disciplined for growling can go directly to a bite without any warning first.


Karen, Kodi, Pixel and Panda
(ARCHMX Starborn Kodak Moment CGC, NTD, BN, PCD, NA, NAJ, CDX-CCH, RE, RLV, RL1X3, RL2X4, RL3X3...
plus Starborn's Picture Perfect & Nauti Herd Compact Flash RN, CGC, NTD, SN-C, RL1)






krandall is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome