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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-14-2012, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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Rough Day :(

So there are only 2 days left before we bring Comet home and today I met the breeder at the neurologist for Comet's BAER test. Let's just say it was not a good experience. Poor little puppy did not like the needles and the collar the vet was using and got stressed out. The vet said he could sedate him, but at 8 1/2 weeks old, we all agreed it was not worth sedating him for a hearing test.

The vet (and breeder) were EXTREMELY patient and were willing to try again after we gave Comet a break to calm down, but he was still not having none of it. So we decided to try Rescue Remedy to calm him down and went walking with him outside to tire him out, which helped a bit, but the vet was only able to test 1 ear (which was perfectly fine) and then Comet became agitated again.

The vet said he did not want to put him through any more stress and did not try again. He did offer to test him again in 4 months if we wanted.

Needless to say, my wife and I feel awful for putting the little guy through all the stress today. We were trying to do the right thing and perform, what we thought, was a piece of cake test (which apparently is a non-event with slightly older dogs). Just hope this incident does not make him fearful of vets in the future.

Ironically, someone dropped something on a desk and Comet quickly turned his head, to show us he could hear and probably thought - "what the heck are you people trying to do to me??? I know I can hear!".

At this point, we have to go off of family history (parents and grandparents all passed their BAER testing and none Comet's relatives have had any hearing issues). Not sure if Comet's experience was an anomaly (he has a great temperament and is very easy going), but I don't think I would recommend the BAER test to a puppy so young.

I guess the one positive thing from the whole ordeal was that *I* was not the one in the room during the test (the vet and breeder were in there). When it was over, I was the one who came in and "rescued" him and he calmed down immediately, which could bode well for the future I suppose. We did make sure to let Comet play with the vet afterwards to not leave on a bad note (our breeder's idea).

We feel bad that we didn't get the data we sought, but even worse to have had the little guy go through such an unpleasant experience .
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That stinks, but it's great Comet thinks you're the hero. Live and learn I'm sure he'll be fine. Not too much longer now,

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It sometimes makes we wonder why BAER in this breed is necessary still. I know it's a positive to do so but when one looks at the overall stats so very few dogs have hearing problems, 97.3% are perfectly fine. It's obvious when a dog can hear, is it really worth subjecting them to hearing tests, sedation and stress? I don't now what the stats were to begin with when they first started keeping records and if there have been improvements in the percentages since then, that would interest me.


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It sometimes makes we wonder why BAER in this breed is necessary still. I know it's a positive to do so but when one looks at the overall stats so very few dogs have hearing problems, 97.3% are perfectly fine. It's obvious when a dog can hear, is it really worth subjecting them to hearing tests, sedation and stress? I don't now what the stats were to begin with when they first started keeping records and if there have been improvements in the percentages since then, that would interest me.
Within the last year we had a member of the forum purchase a puppy from a breeder who chose not to do BAER testing because it was "too far away". After she had had the puppy home for a while (and it wasn't responding normally in training, during puppy classes) it turned out that the puppy was entirely, congenitally deaf. I don't know how it's possible for a breeder not to notice that one of the puppies is completely deaf, but certainly it is EASY to miss unilateral deafness, and it IS still in the breed. I want a puppy to start out with two good ears.


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I want a puppy to start out with two good ears.
Yeah us too... Oh well - we tried to verify it
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Yeah us too... Oh well - we tried to verify it
Yeah, it sounds like he couldn't have tolerated any more that day, anyway. At least you know FOR SURE that he has hearing in one ear, and he's not a breeding dog, so ou don't have to be concerned about passing possible problems on. I think it would be irresponsible to BREED a dog without a complete BAER test, even if it meant going back, sedattion, or whatever was needed.


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