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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 11-28-2006, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
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To Trim or Not to Trim!!!

I need the adivce of all the experienced Havanese parents,

My puppy seems to have started blowing his coat and he looks soooo strange. At first he looked like he was missing hair right in the middle of the back and you could see down to the skin. His tail also looked very pittyful. His coat was also pretty streight (think Maltese) and more cottony than silky. Now he is getting new hair and you can really see it in the middle of his back. It's thicker, silkier and wavier (which I really like). He still has quite a lot of baby hair on the sides, but the new hair closer to the skin is much thicker and where the old hair looks like one out of each follicle, the new ones seems to be more like five or more (that is much thicker). Is that normal? Also, I've heard that it takes up to three years for the adult coat to come in, is that true?

Having said all that, would it be nicer to give him a puppy cut all over to even out the hair or should I just let it come out as it will? Also, can someone please post pics of a good puppy cut I can take to my groomer to show?

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IS your dog a pet or for show? Pet its all up to the owner if you want to do shows let it grow it will take time but it will grown and get all straighten out.I am working on Yoda coat UGG Yoda tail looks sad LOL he is 8 months and blowing coat so now he is on a vita. supplement and egg yolk and I switch his food to solid gold . I use a real good product for shampoo and conditioner and also a good leave in conditioner. With what I am doing to his coat he should be all pretty in about 8 weeks so much to do but I hear it is so worth it.MY Hub told me I am going to brake the bank just getting his coat in good shape. I was told by a breeder to work from the inside out so that is what I am doing beside the batheing when he is done with the shampoo he gets queen helen conditioner put on and put in a crate with force air dryer and he has that on for about 20 mins then he gets it rinse out.Keep your fingers cross for me that this all works.Good luck there coat is so wonderful when it is grown out just remember you cant put the cut hair back on LOL make sure that is what you really want
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Hi Susan,

My puppy is definitely a pet, even if here were good enough to show, which he isnt. I feed him Solid Gold Wee Bit dry and add tiny perl size drop of Wysong's 95% all meat canned food, as he doesn't care for dry alone. How often and how much egg yolk do you give him?

I am really impressed with all the time you take to get your puppy ready for show. I am just too busy with my two teenagers, their afterschool activities to even entertain an idea of a show dog. We take minimal time with grooming, just what is necessary (daily brushing, cleaning the eyes, ears, etc.). But all three of my dogs get two 30 min to an hour (each)s walk a day. Both off leash, so they can play with other dogs at our park. They love it and I get some exercise and fresh air.

I am leaning towards giving him a puppy cut. While you are right that I can't put the cut hair back, it is hair and like human, sooner or later it will grow back (if I let it).
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It is hard when you have kids still at home thank G mind are all grown up now I baby sit my grandson but Yoda is my number one at the moment. And thanks I love doing all this for yoda I look at it this way a heathly dog with lots of attention is a happy dog.which inturns makes me happy . Yoda is a pleasure to be around. And my in laws helps alot by spoiling him LOL They said they are grans and grandpa and that is there job LOL they buy special treats for Yoda like turkey breast or chicken from the deli they claim they dont but I know better LOL Yoda dont care for dry food either I do give him some can solid gold in his food daily like a teaspoon per feeding Yoda eats 2 times aday and I give the egg yolk to him over his food and mix it well he gets that 2 times a week.And his vita. he gets every other day. with a little plain yogart maybe about 1 table spoon it will help some what with his coat just like you would give a nursing bitch Just not as much LOL Yoda coat is getting thicker which is a very good thing. Oh the egg yolk he dry egg yolk.I got it on line a lb of it is like 6.00 pretty cheap really.It sounds like you like the puppy cutt so why not do it you would have a little less grooming time still having to groom but not as much as long coat talk to you later susan
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Yeap,

It seems like I am really leaning toward a puppy cut. But if it were up to my hubby and kids all of my dogs would be in long hair. Why not, they don't have to do it, right!

I think I might try giving Bugsy egg yolk twice a week. What kind of vitamin suppliment do you give your dog?

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Julia, As you can see from my pics, my girls are done in puppy cuts. I like to keep them short, less worry about matting (although you still get some) but they do go to the groomer every 5 weeks for bath & cut. I cut them a little shorter in the summer just for their comfort, and let them get a little longer in the winter - but would rather play with them, than have to sit & brush them constantly. With show dogs, you really have to keep their coats brushed.
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Hi! I'm a fairly new Hav owner....Valentino will be 1 yr. on 12-7! Do all Hav's "blow coat"??? If he has I didn't know it! He's always had a nice thick coat...sometimes i wonder if it is too dense. I still plan to post a photo but I'm not too nifty on the computer so I may need some help! Anyway...do they "blow coat" at different times or all around the same age?? Please enlighten me! vicki
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They blow coats at different times and different rates. It doesn't seem to even go with coat type or texture, just individual differences. Unless one of ours is showing they are cut down. Pam uses clippers with different length combs to cut the body down with and scissors the legs a little longer than the body but the same length for the length of the leg. The head and tail are left shaggy but the bangs are clipped above the eyes but still hang down some. They still look like Havanese. A lot of groomers like to taper the legs and sculpt the head to make them end up looking like poodles. We like the shaggy look without the upkeep. The dogs that are cut down are 10 times quicker and easier to wash and dry and there's not much brushing other than the ears and tail.
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Thanks Tom! You are a virtual Hav encyclopedia! My groomer does a pretty good job w/him....i keep him in a puppy type cut. I will share your info w/her though. What exactly does happen when they "blow coat"?? vicki
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I'll try to attach a pic. This is Keeper cut down about an inch long on his body. Without the weight of the longer fur sometimes the short cuts look sort of curly depending on the waves in the fur.

I need help with inserting an image. I'm used to there being a paperclip icon that I don't see..........
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