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Apparently getting a dog is similar to having your first kid. Everyone assumes that you are stupid and offers "must do" advice. Oi. I seem to be a magnet for it! I, of course, have to be the oddball who crate tranes and everyone thinks I am practicing cruel and unusual punishment and I am second guessing things now! Help!

Currently Piper is up around 7am, she goes out to potty and then plays with us in the living room only. We had expanded to the kitchen, but she peed in there, so we went back to living room only.

9am is breakfast, potty and then nap - either on our lap for snuggles or in her crate if we are busy.

11am she is up, potty & play time, then lunch, potty, snuggles and a bit more play and then she goes in her kennel at 1:30 for a nap. She typically naps for 2 - 2.5 hours. Then up, potty, play, snack, potty, nap. She eats at 6pm and is in bed for the night between 9 & 10pm.

We have half her kennel blocked for now and will eventually expand to give her the whole kennel. We will also expand her time outside the kennel and in different areas of the house, decreasing her "space" if she potties inside. She also has lots of play time outside, not just in the house.

Is this "right"?? I keep having people tell me that she should have the run of the house and just to "rub her nose" in her accidents. We have never rubbed her nose in it. If she has an accident we will clap to get her attention and then immediately take her outside to her potty spot while another member of the family (usually me! LOL) cleans up the mess. Am I being "soft"??

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Apparently getting a dog is similar to having your first kid. Everyone assumes that you are stupid and offers "must do" advice. Oi. I seem to be a magnet for it! I, of course, have to be the oddball who crate tranes and everyone thinks I am practicing cruel and unusual punishment and I am second guessing things now! Help!

Currently Piper is up around 7am, she goes out to potty and then plays with us in the living room only. We had expanded to the kitchen, but she peed in there, so we went back to living room only.

9am is breakfast, potty and then nap - either on our lap for snuggles or in her crate if we are busy.

11am she is up, potty & play time, then lunch, potty, snuggles and a bit more play and then she goes in her kennel at 1:30 for a nap. She typically naps for 2 - 2.5 hours. Then up, potty, play, snack, potty, nap. She eats at 6pm and is in bed for the night between 9 & 10pm.

We have half her kennel blocked for now and will eventually expand to give her the whole kennel. We will also expand her time outside the kennel and in different areas of the house, decreasing her "space" if she potties inside. She also has lots of play time outside, not just in the house.

Is this "right"?? I keep having people tell me that she should have the run of the house and just to "rub her nose" in her accidents. We have never rubbed her nose in it. If she has an accident we will clap to get her attention and then immediately take her outside to her potty spot while another member of the family (usually me! LOL) cleans up the mess. Am I being "soft"??
You are doing absolutely fine, and ANYONE who says to rub a dog's nose in it, needs their OWN nose rubbed in it! A dog learns absolutely NOTHING from that. Potty training is all about establishing good habits, and it sounds like that's exactly what you are doing. Most potty training problems come form too little supervision and too much freedom, not the other way around. You are not being "soft" you are being "smart"!


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YOU are doing FANTASTIC!! Smile, nod and ignore 'advice' ... seriously.
Yes, it is a lot like raising children... Tillie is nearly 3 yrs old and on a regular basis I get people complaining that TILLIE is hot and it's 'time for her summer hair cut' really!??
Just ignore those people, often their hearts are in the right place, but thier advice is ancient.

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Pied Piper, I adopted my just turned 3 y/o Lola 3 1/2 weeks ago. Have had to hold my tongue more than a few times already. Argghhh, I feel your pain. "She's fat" was the first one I heard. "No (I'm thinking but not saying), YOU ARE." Another neighbor launched into a diatribe about how matted she'd be.

Look only on the bright side, relish the compliments and sweetness shown your new baby. Follow TilliesMom's advice.

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Thanks all! This forum has been such a blessing to me!

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It's funny how often the unsolicited advice involves something I'd never do to my dog. IE: shock collars, rubbing nose in it, etc. OR is somehow disparaging about appearance - usually involving getting a haircut.

Now I know our dogs aren't children (in my opinion they are better! ha ha), but if I went up to someone and suggested they use a cattle prod on their unruly toddler or said they needed a haircut...I'm pretty sure it wouldn't go over very well. So, why on earth would it go over any better when you are talking about my dog?!!

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Sounds great to me. When Hanna was a pup my method was to try to "prevent" her from having accidents by taking her out frequently and then some if I noticed her sniffing around. The few times she did have an accident I blamed myself for being too preoccupied with something else and not taking her out in a timely way. I also crate trained her and I think it's a great method - the puppy just learns so quickly when other options are blocked off. Dogs are denning animals and naturally seek out small spaces for comfort, so most dogs enjoy their kennel.

Don't listen to those know-nothings!
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Just want to offer further support ....that it sounds like you are doing a great job. Listen to the comments made by above forum members. They know what they are talking about. I had three children. I was not prepared for how much like bringing home a newborn human infant these Havs would be as puppies. And the unsolicited advice you are getting sounds much like the person with no children going off on 'how I would never allow my child to do thus and so, or I would do it this way'. And then watching how their tune changes after a child comes into their life. Hahaha

Carry on and keep doing what you are doing.

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It's funny how often the unsolicited advice involves something I'd never do to my dog. IE: shock collars, rubbing nose in it, etc. OR is somehow disparaging about appearance - usually involving getting a haircut.

Now I know our dogs aren't children (in my opinion they are better! ha ha), but if I went up to someone and suggested they use a cattle prod on their unruly toddler or said they needed a haircut...I'm pretty sure it wouldn't go over very well. So, why on earth would it go over any better when you are talking about my dog?!!
Don't fool yourself, though...

People are JUST as rude about saying things about your kids. My older son was very tall for his age, and never had a "toddler" build. He was a string bean. He also talked in complete sentences at 18 months. There were several times when I heard someone in a store making a comment about how my child was "acting like a two year old" (obviously thinking he was much older) when, in fact, he hadn't yet REACHED his second birthday!

Or the time that someone asked me if they were adopted, because one was dark haired, dark eyed and a string bean, while the other was pale blonde, blue eyed and a fire plug. I mean, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with having adopted children or BEING an adopted child. But it's just not a question you ask!!!


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Totally right method! I did the crate train, and my pup did spend a lot of his first few months in his crate. At around 7 months, he got full run of downstairs and 11 mo, got to sleep in our bed and at 2 yrs, full run up and downstairs.
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