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post #1 of 90 (permalink) Old 11-20-2007, 10:53 AM Thread Starter
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I have a question....does anyone else have a Chocolate colored furbaby or am I alone out here?

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Judy, I don't have a chocolate but I have my heart set on one. There was a cute chocolate boy available a few weeks ago but the time just wasn't right. I know the breeder has more breedings planned that include the chocolate stud so maybe next year.........I love the chocolates.

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Dot has one (Duncan) but she's not around that much. And Dusty is also a chocolate (DAJsmom). Kahlua is a chocolate, I don't remember her mom's name though... she's from Australia. I'm sure there are others that I just can't remember, but those are the ones off the top of my head.


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There are some chocolates here, but I can't recall all off the top of my head. I think they are beautiful and I think the ones w/ green eyes are SO unique!

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For all of you breeders and dog show people how do you think Chocolates do in the show ring and do you think it takes longer to champion them? I'd really like to know ~ I have seen some that are super champions, (can't think of the one name that is really big on the top of my head, but he's gorgeous) but they sure are less of them out in the show world.

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I saw a really quite beautiful chocolate/cream in the ring a few weeks ago. He was really misbehaving and didn't place, but I thought he was gorgeous.

The owner was so frustrated with his behavior when she came out of the ring, she THREW his lead at her husband and started cussing that she is "never handling him again, someone else can do it"! lol, he was pretty distracted and hyper, lol

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Dusty is a beautiful chocolate!!!




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For all of you breeders and dog show people how do you think Chocolates do in the show ring and do you think it takes longer to champion them? I'd really like to know ~ I have seen some that are super champions, (can't think of the one name that is really big on the top of my head, but he's gorgeous) but they sure are less of them out in the show world.
Libby, since the show ring is for breeding stock and a lot of people try to stay away from breeding chocolates, you won't see as many. Some judges don't like chocolates and they do need to have strong brown pigment to compete, not diluted or faded brown or tan. (All other dogs need black pigment.) There are a couple of long-time chocolate breeders who know what they are doing, but I wouldn't touch a chocolate (for breeding purposes) at this time. It's too much of a hit-or-miss situation unless you have a mentor who is willing to work with you.
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Libby, since the show ring is for breeding stock and a lot of people try to stay away from breeding chocolates, you won't see as many. Some judges don't like chocolates and they do need to have strong brown pigment to compete, not diluted or faded brown or tan. (All other dogs need black pigment.) There are a couple of long-time chocolate breeders who know what they are doing, but I wouldn't touch a chocolate (for breeding purposes) at this time. It's too much of a hit-or-miss situation unless you have a mentor who is willing to work with you.

Kimberly,
Just out of curiosity, why do so many breeders specifically stay away from breeding Cholocolate Havs?

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There are several reasons and I'm not familiar with all of them, but one of the main reasons is the pigmentation. In addition, varying colors of eyes can show up in chocolates, including green and yellow, but only brown-eyed dogs are allowed with the standard.

Again, I'm not certain, but I think I recall that if you breed a chocolate dog to a dog with chocolate genes (not necessarily displaying chocolate pigment), the dog is at higher risk for heridary problems. Someone who knows better can correct me on that, but I know it is the case in chocolate labs.

There is plenty of betterment & learning to be done in the black pigmented dogs, so I'm convinced to stay in that area for now.
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