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Question House training help

Hello all! I'm very new here to posting but I've read a bunch of posts over the last several weeks.

My hav (Levi) is 15 weeks old. We love, love, love him and are very happy with our breed choice. The only place we are struggling is with house training. We take him out every hour, we have bells hanging on the door we use to take him out and have him ring them every time we take him out. He has rung the bells a few random times but is still peeing in the house at least twice a day if not more. Any suggestions? Is he just still too young to be perfect with this task? Is there anything else we should do to help him?
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Is he confined to a small place when you can't actively watch him? Too much space will give a puppy opportunity to pee somewhere. Some people put their pups in a crate when they can't watch them, or in an expen with a pee pad on one end. Was he trained at all before you got him? More info on his routine will help others to give you advice.

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Is he confined to a small place when you can't actively watch him? Too much space will give a puppy opportunity to pee somewhere. Some people put their pups in a crate when they can't watch them, or in an expen with a pee pad on one end. Was he trained at all before you got him? More info on his routine will help others to give you advice.
I've read the tips about limiting their roam but the floor plan of my house just doesn't allow for this without large expenses for extensive gates. The opening into our family room is 8' wide. I suppose I could set up an ex pen but that will keep him from being able to get to people, is that ok?

His routine... he wakes up around 5am. We take him straight outside when he usually poops and pees. Then he eats and goes directly back outside when he usually pees again. After that he's taken out every hour and we typically bring him right back in after he pees as I read this helps indicate outside is for pottying. Around 6pm he eats dinner and then goes right outside, he either poops here or at the 7pm trip outside. Between 10 and 10:30 he goes out for the last time and then goes into his crate for the night.

Does that help?
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I would suggest that you set up an expen in the area of your house where your family spends most of their time. Our Leo's is in the den. Initially, arrange it in a 2x4 configuration so there is room for his bedding, water, food and toys and indoor potty option if you choose(I do not). ANYTIME, you can not watch your puppy with undivided attention, put him in his expen. Take him outside frequently for pottying and pay attention to any ways that he tries to communicate his need to go outside to potty. As he successfully keeps the expen accident free then you can make it a bit larger. You need to try very hard to prevent indoor potty accidents because it ends up taking longer to get them reliably housetrained when they get to pee or poo in the house. It seems unkind to confine them when they are little but really it helps them develop better house manners which in the long run enables them complete freedom indoors. Housetraining requires time, patience, attentiveness and persistence. He will catch on but he needs a clear understanding of where he should potty. When he gets to have accidents indoors then it confuses the puppy as to where the appropriate potty place is. Running loose indoors should only happen for short periods when you know your puppy has emptied outside AND you can watch him with undivided attention. Our Leo is 19 weeks today and has lived with us since he was 10.5 weeks. To date he has had 1 pee accident in the house when my DH and I got caught up in a conversation and neglected to pay attention and 1 pee accident in his expen when he tried to wake my DH but DH didn't move quickly enough. Leo has earned more free time, is holding longer between trips outside and begun to go to the door when he needs to go out. By taking this process slowly, we are giving Leo the chance to be successful in learning where to potty and permitting his body to mature so that he can read the signals it sends him in time for him to let us know that he needs to go out. It will be some time yet before we would permit Leo free unsupervised access to the indoors. Your puppy will get this but it takes time and effort.


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Ex pen will make this a quicker and more enjoyable task for you and Levi. My husband made a barrier we could step over(wasn't pretty, but did the job), but we could keep Sofie out of family room. We have a 12 ft opening between kitchen and family room. We also have an ex pen. They are an invaluable training tool. When we had a rescued retired greyhound racer, we used housing insulation board to contain him. He could have easily knocked it down, but was content with his den. Would never have worked for our German Shepherd!!!
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I agree with what the others are saying. I know it is hard to use small confined spaces but you don't have to forever, just until they are trained. I also did this with Mikey.

Is he going pee every time you take him outside? If you are truly taking him every hour and he IS peeing outside then and you still have accidents I would wonder about a UTI. He is over 3 months, he should be able to hold it longer than an hour.

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Mikey was doing great being potty trained then developed a urinary track infection (UTI) at around 2 1/2 - 3 months (somewhere around there) It was tough then, poor little guy just had to pee to much and I got frustrated cause I thought I was doing something wrong. I couldn't figure it out and I've had dogs before and even had one with a UTI before and just didn't think about that being the case right away - he was just a puppy and I thought it was something I was doing wrong.

Anyway, got antibiotics, worked through it and he is 5 1/2 months old now and the best little guy ever!!! Hasn't had an accident in ages now. Whew!!!

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I would suggest that you learn his signs. Watch him before he goes to the bathroom, that way you'll automatically no if he has to go.

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