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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-10-2013, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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Potty training help needed. Turn back if long posts are off putting to you ;)

I have gotten so many helpful ideas reading everyone's posts and had a solid plan in place when we brought Avrie (8 week old female and smallest in the litter) home last weekend. I am hoping to get some insight/suggestions for Avrie with her potty training journey. [Sidenote: We have Blakely who is also a female and just turned 3 years old. We adopted Blakely when she was two years old so she came to us already potty trained. She goes outside to potty and poop exclusively.]

Here is our set up: IRIS ex-pen in the den (we are not using a crate at night, just the ex-pen) that has her bed, water bowl, and potty pad tray. Other than Avrie pooping and walking through it on the potty pad tray once or twice she has not made a mess in the pen. No potty any place other than on the potty pad tray. She walks over to the tray and will potty ad lib/as needed. We are beyond thrilled with that progress in such a short amount of time!!! Now, outside of the ex-pen is a totally different story. Tile floor in the kitchen we have partitioned off for supervised playtime and that is where we feed her 3x/day. We bring the potty pad tray in there when she is in there (not close to her food tho). We have learned her "frisk n scamper around" pre-poop dance and put her on the tray . Now her sign for pottying it isn't as distinct. When her nose is down and sniffing we place her on the pad and tell her to "go potty". Most times without success. She will then go back to playing and most often will potty anywhere BUT on the tray. The same thing occurs in the family room where we have a vinyl table cloth laid over the carpet (beige carpet...beige table cloth) and that is where we play with her when we are watching tv and just hanging out as a family. We have not allowed her free run of the house to explore (supervised of course). She does a good job of staying on the table cloth except when playing with big sis Blakely. No big deal, she gets too far off we just return her to it. I should also mention both in the kitchen and family room we place her on the tray about every 15 mins and tell her to "go potty".
Now our long term goal is for Avrie is to be like Blakely and go outside exclusively but I know we are a long way from that.
Avrie had her first round of puppy shots. Our vet says it is ok for her to go outside in our small fenced backyard space that Blakely uses. Just watch to make sure she doesn't eat the poop that might be left there. I know Blakely is going to be so helpful with training Avrie to go outside once both of them get better adjusted to one another. It doesn't help that the weather is not cooperating and we have TS Chantal going to dump more rain on us this weekend (live in SW FL). So honestly we have not made much effort at all to start the go outside in the yard yet because of the weather forecast.

I know Avrie is still very young and only weighs 2.1#. I don't expect 100% success this early in her life. I just want to know what I need to tweak and make sure we are teaching her correctly. Miss Avrie is such a good girl already. She slept 10p-6a last night!!! About 4am she let out 3 lil whimpers but self soothed herself back to sleep before I even got out of bed to comfort her. She loves her Cuddle Puppy with the heartbeat that we put in with her at night.

Whomever is brave enough to tackle my long winded post I want to thank you in advance!!! Going to work on putting a pic up of Blakely and Avrie...our lil "love muffins"

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Congrats on the new little pup! I've been going through this recently and, for us, it almost always comes back to just limiting the amount of space. If she's not reliable in the room outside the pen, the room is just too big. It would also help to limit access outside the pen to only those moments you know her bladder is empty. It was hard for us because our pup peed very frequently for the first few weeks, especially in the mornings. She would pee and then literally go again 10 minutes later. She's perfectly healthy, just active and full of digesting kibble and water.

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That makes perfect sense...thank you so much for your reply!
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I have a feeling that Blakely will be a big help in teaching little Avrie about potting outside. I have two Havanese who aren't 100% trained so I'm not great on advice. Mine use pads and the outdoors. But sometimes still mistake a rug for their piddle pad. If I was to do it all over again I would get a different textured potty area. Like the plastic one they sell. I can't remember the name UGA DOO ?. I had mine in an x pin but Maddie climbed out and really hurt her leg. So then I blocked an area of my kitchen. I was for the most part a stay home mom for the first year and a half of their life. I tried everything but the little girls still have accidents. Your pup is so tiny it will be awhile before she can control her bladder. But keep up the good work and she will be as dependable as Blakely.

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Sounds like you're off to a great start! Don't forget, we need pictures!!!

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Thx Suzi for your reply. I hope Maddie is all better! I have the concern of Avrie getting out when she gets bigger. The pen came with a mesh top but that looks like it could be really dangerous if her nail got caught in it.

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Thumbs up Quick update on Avrie

Quick update on Avrie:
Life with Lil Avrie and her big sister Blakely are going really well! I did in fact scale down Avrie's space and instantly saw an improvement in her accidents. We have a ways to go but feel like we are making forward progress She has gotten really nippy/bitey the past could of days and we are constantly redirecting her with a chew toy. Oh and she has taken an affinity to eating her poop if we don't snatch it up right away. Even with those lil challenges we are having such a great time with both girls <3

*Going to try to post some pics. Have not had any luck trying on my ipad so I am using my laptop. [Fingers crossed]
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Avrie and Blakely are precious! I adore cute black puppies!
Congrats on making progress with Avrie's potty training. Wish I could help on the poop eating - others on the Forum have Havs that do that too so maybe they'll be able to offer suggestions on how to curtail that behavior. -Jeanne-
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I have heard that adding a little yogurt to their kibble can help with poop eating. I haven't tried this, so I'm not speaking from experience.
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Get a good pooper scooper and clean up immediately after either one goes poop outside. Teach "Leave it" as a command and praise/treat like crazy when she turns away from poop when given the "Leave it " command is given. Try adding canned pumpkin ( plain, without pie spices) to their diets, a good sized dollop. This worked for our poop eater but it took 4-5 months of consistent use for the habit to cease.

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