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I am thinking about transitioning 9 month old Sophie from her ex pen to the kitchen, cordoned off, of course. The only time she uses her expen (with her crate inside) is when we are gone. She does occasionally use her crate for napping, but more often than not, uses the floor or loveseat.

I was wondering the best way of going about this transition, and even if this is a wise thing to do at this age.

I thought I would leave her crate where it is and use the ex pen as a barrier between kitchen and family room. I would use gates to keep her out of dining/living rooms and access to upstairs. She is use to the gates and having limited access to those areas.I would probably do this for several weeks.

I do understand there are relapses in behavior during adolescence, but then waiting too long to make changes can also be troublesome for older dogs.

I would appreciate any wisdom and advice.
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I have expanded space for my 3 havs recently. They are ages 5, 4 and 3 months. When I first brought them each home, they were in the ex-pens 2x4 size with just enough room for bed and litter. After they were accident free for weeks that way, I expanded the ex-pen a little more and continued to expand it until it was fully open.... so long as they remained accident free. With increased space to play, it allowed for increased space for accidents. Mine continued to do well so I didn't need to decrease the size of the ex-pen and try again. If the space proves to much, no big deal, just decrease the size for a while and try again at another time.
After my havs did well with the extended size of the ex-pens, I then opened up the family room with access to their litter boxes. My girls use the boxes, my male usually does not. So, if there is no litter used, make sure to do alot of potty breaks at first because this extra space seems to bring on extra excitement, leading to more peeing! LOL! Don't expect perfection, but mine are doing very well now, with the whole first floor open to them. This was the method I used and it has worked. If someone were to have an accident, I'd just say "no" and take them outside or to the litter box. Hope this helps some.

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Thank you jmombo. Sophie hasn't had an accident since she was 4 1/2 months. When we are home, she generally has access to upstairs and down. She is great to run downstairs and ring her bells if she needs to go out. We keep her in her expen with crate when we are not at home. I am concerned about creating anxiety with the larger kitchen area at her disposal. She is not a clingy girl and may trot upstairs for some private time with her antler. It is not very long before she comes back down. It is doubtful that I would ever give her free rein of the whole house ever...

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I am thinking about transitioning 9 month old Sophie from her ex pen to the kitchen, cordoned off, of course. The only time she uses her expen (with her crate inside) is when we are gone. She does occasionally use her crate for napping, but more often than not, uses the floor or loveseat.

I was wondering the best way of going about this transition, and even if this is a wise thing to do at this age.

I thought I would leave her crate where it is and use the ex pen as a barrier between kitchen and family room. I would use gates to keep her out of dining/living rooms and access to upstairs. She is use to the gates and having limited access to those areas.I would probably do this for several weeks.

I do understand there are relapses in behavior during adolescence, but then waiting too long to make changes can also be troublesome for older dogs.

I would appreciate any wisdom and advice.
That makes sense to me. It's very similar to the expanded areas I opened up for Julie at 9 and 10 months. It has meant increased monitoring for me to keep potty habits reinforced but has been successful overall.


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Is it because you eventually want to get rid of the ex-pen? If so, your plan sounds worth trying. If you have cleaning supplies or anything you don't want her to access in the lower kitchen cabinets, I'd install baby locks.


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I tried to transition Sheldon from ex-pen to kitchen. Although he had been accident-free for some time, he immediately peed on the kitchen floor when he was confined there.
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I tried to transition Sheldon from ex-pen to kitchen. Although he had been accident-free for some time, he immediately peed on the kitchen floor when he was confined there.
Hmmmm, maybe I am rushing it. Actually, I was thinking of just for maybe 15-20 minutes at first, such as when I need to water outdoor flowers.
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I'm considering the opposite strategy for Sheldon. He has a large ex-pen with potty, bed, etc in the LR. To take back the LR, I'm thinking of reducing it to the minimum size and eliminating the potty. He is never in there for more than 4 hours at a time. I'm thinking of trying that out this weekend.
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Let me know how that works for Sheldon.
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Is it because you eventually want to get rid of the ex-pen? If so, your plan sounds worth trying. If you have cleaning supplies or anything you don't want her to access in the lower kitchen cabinets, I'd install baby locks.
Yes, and the locks on the cabinets sounds like a wise decision. I did not even think of that. The are clever and determined.
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