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Switching food

We will be picking Ivy up on Friday. I do not want to keep her on the food she is currently eating. I went on dogfoodadvisor.com and it doesn't have a good enough rating for me.

When can I switch her food. I know I have to do it slowing. Mixing a little new in with the old until eventually it is all the new food. But when can I start that?

Also what kibble do you recommend? Please keep in mind I'm in Canada and I am not going to do the raw diet. My friend feeds her Springer Spaniel Acana. I found on dogfoodadvisor that the home brand of my local grocery store (Great Canadian Superstore) has a kibble that rates 4 stars (PC's Nutrition First). Do you think that it would be okay?

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We will be picking Ivy up on Friday. I do not want to keep her on the food she is currently eating. I went on dogfoodadvisor.com and it doesn't have a good enough rating for me.

When can I switch her food. I know I have to do it slowing. Mixing a little new in with the old until eventually it is all the new food. But when can I start that?

Also what kibble do you recommend? Please keep in mind I'm in Canada and I am not going to do the raw diet. My friend feeds her Springer Spaniel Acana. I found on dogfoodadvisor that the home brand of my local grocery store (Great Canadian Superstore) has a kibble that rates 4 stars (PC's Nutrition First). Do you think that it would be okay?

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I wouldn't go with that brand myself. When you buy a generic store brand you don't even know who is manufacturing it. There are plenty of high quality foods you can get from a pet store. I use Orijen (who also makes Acana), but there are loads of other good brands as well. Kibble is low man on the totem pole nutrition wise. I use it anyhow because that fits into our lifestyle more conveniently (as I'm packing 2 of his meals with me most days).

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Besides the star rating, you also have to consider where the ingredients come from. I don't feed my guys anything that has ingredients from China, that includes treats.

If you want to feed dry food, I know Acana, Orjens, Fromm and Natures Logic don't use anything from China





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Thanks guys. I emailed the store head office and asked where the plant is located and also a list of countries that supply the ingredients. To be honest I'll be surprised if the food is as high a quality as they claim. It would be really convenient for me to get it at the grocery store and they have sales and such. Oh well.
I'll check out all the brands that have been recommended and likely choose one of them. Hopefully I can get a sample package of the one I choose. I don't want to waste my money buying a bag of food she doesn't. Same goes for treats.

Can I give her real cheese for treats? When I bring her home on Friday I am going to do a few crate games with the clicker.
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Thanks guys. I emailed the store head office and asked where the plant is located and also a list of countries that supply the ingredients. To be honest I'll be surprised if the food is as high a quality as they claim. It would be really convenient for me to get it at the grocery store and they have sales and such. Oh well.
I'll check out all the brands that have been recommended and likely choose one of them. Hopefully I can get a sample package of the one I choose. I don't want to waste my money buying a bag of food she doesn't. Same goes for treats.

Can I give her real cheese for treats? When I bring her home on Friday I am going to do a few crate games with the clicker.
Many dogs love cheese including my Leo but it gives him an awful tummy upset so is on his do not feed list. I use his Ziwipeak food and boiled plain chicken for his treats. I started switching Leo from the breeders kibble to what I preferred after about 2 weeks. I gave him time to settle in then slowly added increasingly more of the kibble I preferred while lessening the other kibble. He was a very streaky eater and that really didn't improve until I switched him to Ziwipeak Air-Dried about 3 weeks ago. He does better on this food and eats more consistently. I am still trying to sort out the proper amount for his daily ration but otherwise it's working well. You'll probably have to see how your pup does once she comes home. Some seem to be good eaters and others not so much. Many will eat better if their person stays lose by. Have fun with Eric and post lots of pictures!


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Thanks guys. I emailed the store head office and asked where the plant is located and also a list of countries that supply the ingredients. To be honest I'll be surprised if the food is as high a quality as they claim. It would be really convenient for me to get it at the grocery store and they have sales and such. Oh well.
I'll check out all the brands that have been recommended and likely choose one of them. Hopefully I can get a sample package of the one I choose. I don't want to waste my money buying a bag of food she doesn't. Same goes for treats.

Can I give her real cheese for treats? When I bring her home on Friday I am going to do a few crate games with the clicker.
To answer the other part of you questions, I'd leave her on her original diet for at least a week or two. It won't hurt her, and her little body is getting used to enough changes as it is. Then do your slow change-over to whatever new food you choose.

Likewise, it's best to start your early training just using food taken from your puppy's regular meal allotment. With Kodi, his lunch meal was his "training treats" for the day. Cheese is a fine training treat (in tiny pieces!!!) once she gets a bit older and more settled, but if you give it to her right away, and then have to deal with "poopy butt", you will have no idea whether it is caused by general upheaval, switching her to a new diet, or the cheese. One small change at a time, spaced out at least a week or two apart.


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Thanks guys. I emailed the store head office and asked where the plant is located and also a list of countries that supply the ingredients. To be honest I'll be surprised if the food is as high a quality as they claim. It would be really convenient for me to get it at the grocery store and they have sales and such. Oh well.
I'll check out all the brands that have been recommended and likely choose one of them. Hopefully I can get a sample package of the one I choose. I don't want to waste my money buying a bag of food she doesn't. Same goes for treats.

Can I give her real cheese for treats? When I bring her home on Friday I am going to do a few crate games with the clicker.
I've used Acana off and on for years (I switch brands every 6-8 months along with Honest kitchen or Sojos) and here in California I can get both Acana and Orijen in 12 oz bags for $2.99. Hopefully you can get them there too so you don't have to buy a bigger bag. Orijen is higher in calories so that might work out for your puppy but my guys don't need that and they love Acana.
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I use Acana, my dogs love it. I tried orijen but it was just a little too rich and gave them loose poo. Both are made in Alberta with all Canadian human grade products (higher standards than even US human grade). I trust the ingredient list and none of it comes from China or other foreign plants. With grocery store brands you just never know where it has been made. There have been several large scale recalls in dog food that last couple years.

To address your original question: you pup will have many changes the first few weeks so i wouldn't change the food right away. Keep him on what he's used for for the first week or two, and then start very gradually mixing in a small amount of the new food and switch him over gradually.

Oh, and the rule around here is that we need lots of puppy photos when you bring him home!!!!


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I've used Acana off and on for years (I switch brands every 6-8 months along with Honest kitchen or Sojos) and here in California I can get both Acana and Orijen in 12 oz bags for $2.99. Hopefully you can get them there too so you don't have to buy a bigger bag. Orijen is higher in calories so that might work out for your puppy but my guys don't need that and they love Acana.
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How long does a 12oz bag last you? I can get that size for $3.99.
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