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New baby boy on his way

Hi everyone!

We are new to the forum, and are very excited about our new Havanese puppy arriving in March. We have a two-year-old coton de tulear who is a sweetie. We hope she loves her new brother. Since, we've never had a Havanese before, I have a few questions. I appreciate any help you can give.

A few questions at first:

1) Our puppy is coming from Prairiwind (he's black and white parti - adorable). Does anyone else have a Prairiwind puppy? What has been your experience?

2) Our puppy has to fly to Boston from South Dakota. I told my daughter I would never fly a puppy and here we are! He has to change planes, but is travelling with his brother who is going to our best friend's family. Since they will be in the crate together, I feel a little better. But, what should we expect when we get him? Are the puppies terrified? I'm scared it's going to make him afraid of his crate here.

3) Potty training seems to be the biggest challenge from what I've read. Do they ever stop peeing in the house? Our coton de tulear took a long time to potty train, and she still poops in the dining room when it's gross outside! Are pee pee pads the way to go at first?

4) Any suggestions on introducing the puppy to our coton (Lily)?

I really appreciate your advice, and am happy to be a part of the forum.

Susie

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Welcome to the forum Susie, sorry I do not know anything about your breeder but I think it is so nice that you and your best friend are getting a puppy together. These guys just love to play and it will be nice that they will be able to grow up together.

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Susie,

I tried to respond to your pm but the system kicked me out and I lost the whole post. I am very happy with my experience with Linda and with the perfect (for me) little boy Milo that I got. I too, was very concerned about the flight and ours was during a horribly hot summer day. He flew from Nebraska to Houston (I believe) and then to New York. I had no idea that was the route and we actually had weather related delays, putting his arrival over an hour late. He arrived with another puppy -- in a separate crate. He flew Continental and they appeared to take very good care of him. He had both water and a little bit of food with him when he got here.

Who are the sire and dam of your puppy? What color is yours?

There is no doubt, based upon my experience that house breaking is a challenge. Milo will be a year old on the 23rd of this month and he's far from trained. About two months ago I would have thought he was there, but no such luck. Until today, I thought he was finished with pooping in the house, but we had a little setback there too. Fortunately I love him more than I hate his making indoors.

I found introducing him to other dogs to be easy since he'll be coming from a place where he's been interacting with other dogs from the start. In my case I was afraid of the others accidentally hurting him since they're much bigger, but after about three days they were constantly together and happy as can be. They'll find their own way to interact and determine where they fit in.

Are there any photos we can see of your baby to be? Welcome to the group, you're going to love it here. BTW, how did you know I got Milo from Linda, did she tell you?

<b>Just Milo and me, and . . . </b>Bailey makes three . . . until Ruby said, "hey, what about me?"
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Oops, I missed your questions about the crate and whether or not it will cause him to be afraid. Milo was a little frightened on the way home from the airport but I kept my fingers close to him and spoke to him on the whole trip. He had no fear of the crate I set up at home. He just wanted to be wherever I was in the beginning. I would say he suffered more from exhaustion than anything and for the first several days he was so quiet. I had told the group here I was worried that something was wrong with him. However, he totally turned around and became what I lovingly referred to as my lunatic.

Than again, Milo was 5 1/2 months old when I got him, so he'd really bonded there. I'm sure it will be easier with a younger pup. Good luck with him. You're about to fall in love.

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Dear Geri and LeAnn,

Thank you so much for your messages.

Geri, I read in a thread from last summer that you got Milo from Prairiwind. I think I searched for the word "Prairiwind." I was so glad to find you ! It's a leap of faith when you can't actually see the dogs in person. Linda seems like a very responsible, successful breeder. The sire and dam of our litter are Champion Alderons Shelley's Jamoacha and the dam is Champion Prairiwind's Sweet Divinity. The puppy is black and white and adorable. I have a picture, but can't seem to figure out how to attach it? Part of the learning curve I guess.

Are the other big dogs you mentioned Milo playing with, your dogs? Or was that at a park or something? I'm just wondering about introducing the pup (who still doesn't have a name - I have three kids ages 9, 8 and 5 and so far, we can't agree on one) to our dog. I read you should do it outside or in a neutral place. I'm sure they will eventually be great friends. I just want it all to go as smoothly as possible.

I feel your potty training pain. We had a golden who died before we got Lily. Our golden was a breeze! Lily, who is 10 pounds, has been a real challenge.

Thanks again for all your help.

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I have heard good things about this breeder but know nothing first hand. There was a time I shipped my boxer babies all over the U.S. I shipped my bitches to be bred. Had Bitches and babies shipped to me. I never had a problem. Every one arrived safe.

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Susie,

Jamoacha's puppies are magnificent. You'll probably get one with a thicker coat also from those two. Milo has a very silky coat, which has its pluses and minuses. However, and this is for the group, it looks like he won't be bald after all. His head hair is growing back and seems to be a little heavier texture. Yay!

I'm really excited for you. As for attaching a photo. When you create a post, scroll down to the "manage attachments" area. Then upload the photo(s). You just have to keep the size to a reasonable 600xwhatever to fit the file size. I can't wait to see your little boy.

I had no problem introducing the other dogs (Cagney and Lacey) to Milo and I did it in the house. The first day I kept them separated by gates, with him in the kitchen and them anywhere else, but that was only because of the size difference. I would have had them together from minute one if I weren't concerned for his safety.

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I found potty training pretty easy - especially with my first one as I was more on top of him and gave him more undivided attention. Ollie has never had a single accident since he was 4-5 months - he is now 19 months. Austin was pad trained so he was a bit conflicted when he arrived as I am not a big fan of that! (would be nice during the horrible winter storms tho) Austin is now 97% reliable - the only time he has an issue is if we are gone and my son doesn't let him out and he might have an accident - but only in the lving room whcih is not part of his "den" area, otherwise he barks very loudly when he needs to go out. (well truthfullu he barks loudly at ANYTHING! he wants!)

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I have a Prairiwind dog also~ my story may not be the best story so you may want to skip it...lol~!
I find Linda's personality to be a bit standoff-ish. She doesn't have the best "bedside" manner. She can be rude. She has never once emailed me to ask how Daisy is doing. I think she is a bit too "business-like" for me. I think she puts alot of her dog breeding effort into the show dogs, not so much the "pets". But this is only my opinion.
Daisy was flown to me on a super stormy day in Feb. She arrived soaking wet and shaking. We took her home and warmed her up...took her to the vet the next day and she had dual ear infections and coccidia (diarrhea). She was tiny and scared. She hated her crate for weeks after we brought her home. She would whine yelp and scream. But we stuck with it and was successfully crate trained. She has horrible seperation anxiety, even today at over 4 years old~ She hates to be alone, and freaks out if I am out in the front yard without her. She has a very high pitched yelp and she lets me know she is not happy!!! She is tiny, only 7 3/4 lbs but does have a thick coat. It isn't silky at all. It's soft, but also frizzy toward her butt. It was a nightmare to take care of as a puppy, it matted terrible and she hates to be groomed. I kept her in a short puppy cut, but I did grow it out last year. I cut her in a puppy cut again last fall. Oh, she too was pitch black and white as a puppy, but has really faded out to a stunning silver and white color.
BUT.........even with all that.... she is a great little dog! So very sweet and such a lap dog. She loves to go for rides in the car. She was one of my easier to housetrain. She was completely reliable at 4 months old. She doesn't have any accidents in the house, even when it's raining! ( I can't say the same for my other dogs...grrrr!!) She loves to play with the babies when we have puppies in the house. She is a great addition to our family~~
I think the most important thing is that you love your puppy (which I am sure you do!) I hope the flight goes smoothly and you will soon have a sweet baby in your arms!
ps, Jamocha is Daisy's daddy too!!


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Hi Susie, where in Boston are you? It will be nice to have more havs in the area. I have heard nothing but good things about Prairie Wind. I always said we would never ship a puppy either. But when we were looking for our 2nd boy Cash something about him made me go for it. He did arrive shaken and shaking and he threw up on me in the car on the way home. But the minute he was home he was fine and after a good nights sleep it was like nothing had ever happened. He did not want to go into his crate that night or the next but the whining only lasted a few minutes and I had him up on a chair so he could see me and hear my breathing.

You will get a lot of good advice on the forum and here is my two cents.
I have heard house training is not as easy as with a big dog--- you really have to be diligent with these guys right off the bat and stick with it... If you are really committed until they are 4 or 5 months the rest is easier... but not done. I think it is fair to say a lot of Hav owners do not feel their dogs are 100% until they are a year old, and some need refresher courses after 5 months when you need to go back to square one for a week or two. But once you put the time in I have found my boys to be completely reliable (knock on wood) But I have to repeat about being vigilant about it. I got a have having only known one hav in the world who was never successfully house trained and so I really studied up and prepared. My favorite book is house training for dummies and I also got a lot of info from Dorothy Goodales book on Havanese.

We gave our first Hav Jasper a little extra attention when Cash came and only let them be together when we were supervising until we knew no one would get hurt-- you might be worried for the puppy, but remember Lily may need a little rest from the puppy teeth as well as the puppy energy. I found Jasper didn't really play, play with Cash until Cash was 4 or 5 months old-- they interacted and played but they play a lot more now.

Phew, sorry for the long post-- Cash's breeder just sent someone my way for the same sort of info--so I guess it was in my head.

Good luck Susie and we would love pictures.




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