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Mason and Dixie @ 21 weeks...Tic bite

I have been a quiet lurker here on the forums. want to thank everyone for entertaining and informative posts. I love these dogs, They make me laugh every day! They are not 100% house-trained, but doing better. The doggie door made all the difference. I am keeping some Pee pad areas (thanks for the advice Karen) which are used intermittantly. I love their personalities, Mason is brave and hyper, Dixie is shy and quiet. Here are a few pictures from the last week.
Dixie got a tic on her belly friday and I was in a bit of a panic. I called the vet and they didn't want to see her. She got an immediate bullseye rash which has now resolved. I thought i didn't need the frontline since she was primarily using a 20 square foot area in my fenced in backyard with occasional romps in the bigger yard. I was obviously wrong. Anyone else experience tic bites? what did you do?
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I'm from PA too, Delaware County and I have to say it doesn't matter how much space you let them have outside, they can (and will) get ticks even if they stick their head out the door. Timmy had a lot of ticks when he was a small pup and I've had him tested for Lyme twice both came back negative. I've been using AdvantixII, Frontline doesn't do anything around here. He's been on Advantix for a long time and he's not had a tick attached since I started. Mae is only about 10 weeks old and I am constantly checking her for ticks. I have found a few on her, one was attached. I have been using a botanical repellent on her but honestly I'd feel better with her using AdvantixII when it's safe enough for her. Timmy hasn't had any issues using it. How could you see a bullseye with all that fur? I would just keep a close eye on her, if she seems overly tired or achy I would have her checked. Tim's groomer actually requested I have him checked since he seemed to be wincing when she lifted his legs, but he tested negative. I know ticks are so annoying but try to keep your little ones out of leaves and shrubs and tall gasses, things get worse right after it rains. If we have a mild winter like last year you can have ticks year round.

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Thanks Jen. The tick was on her belly. I put the front line on both dogs. I hope they are old enough. .I read some things online from various sources about ticks and diseases they carry. your experience is comforting. Dixie is always asking for belly rubs so I think we found it sooner than 24 hours. Here is a bad picture of the rash
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You know what, Timmy had just about the same mark you're showing in your picture, I didn't know what it was. I'm certainly no expert but have seen the bullseye rash on several people I don't think what you have pictured is actually a bullseye but more of a bite mark with some irritation. This bite thing was on his tummy/private area too. I have an ointment my vet gave me for skin irritation so I have been putting that on it and it's getting much better. I know it was bothering because I caught him licking that area which prompted me for a closer look. It could very well have been a tick bite, but since he's on Advantix I'm sure it died and fell of hence no evidence of the insect itself. I know it's SO annoying these darn ticks (and fleas!) just keep a vigilant eye out for actueal ticks and any behavior changes (lethargy, lack or appetite and just plain achiness) and don't hesitate to have them checked by your vet if you suspect something might be wrong.

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I agree with Jenn. I'm not at all convinced that this mark is a "Lyme bullseye rash". Tick bites are VERY irritating, and it's not at all uncommon to see (and be able to FEEL for quite some time!) a tick bite, even if it's not Lyme or otherwise infected.

As Jenn said, I'd keep an eye out for her not feeling well, any limping, or any fever, but otherwise, wouldn't worry unduly. Only certain types of ticks carry Lyme, and even then, not all ticks do.

Unfortunately, ticks are a fack of life if you live in any parts of the country that aren't VERY dry, and dogs get bitten. It just happens, no matter how much we wish it wouldn't. Kodi has Advatix on him, and i pulled off 3 ticks in one day last week. It REALLY irritates me, because he reacts very badly to the bites themselves, without any disease involved.

The best we can do is use preventatives (check with your vet to see what's most appropriate in your area... In some areas one may be better than another) and MOST important groom your dog THOROUGHLY and DAILY so that you can find and remove any ticks as soon as possible. The longer they are attached, the more chance there is of infection. If theya re not highly engorged, there is a good chance they haven't been attached for long enough to pass on disease.

The other thing that EVERYONE who lives in areas where tick borne diseases are prevalent (not just Lyme... There are several) should do, is ask their vet to do a titer for the most common tick borne diseases at least annually. If a high titer shows up, you can treat before there are actual disease symptoms or long-term damage.


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It's hard to tell from the photo but the "typical" lyme bite has more of a clear central area surrounded by a red ring.
I mountain bike and live in an area where lyme is prevalent.
I can't speak for dogs but in humans some people attract more ticks then others due to varying body chemistry. I can be in the woods clearing a trail for hours and not pick one up and the person next to me can be covered with them.

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Sumirra -
We live in the same area (northwest suburbs of Philadelphia). I definitely recommend a flea/tick preventative. Our vet says that there have been too many "failures" with Frontline. She recommends Advantix II.



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I was hoping to get six weeks out of the Advantix application but sadly, we're right on four and there were ticks on the dogs today. Ugh. We have brown dog ticks here in Florida and they are simply awful. We tried the preventic collar, which worked, but we cant leave it on all of the time because our dogs play and bite each other's collars. Frontine plus does not work as well as Advantix in my experience. I HATE putting any of this on, but what can you do? I tried the holistic spray and it is not working for ticks (seems to be okay for fleas though).
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That is good advice earlier about getting the blood test. We get our dogs tested for everything, heartworm, lyme and other tick-borne diseases. Lyme is rare in our area.
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Thanks for all the advice. I worried about putting the tick medicine on their shoulders/back as the two are always wrestling and mouthing each other. I think i am going to get advantix. (Thanks) Weird that my other dog never had a tick. I guess Dixie is sweeter that thing was so small I don't know how I would have spotted it anywhere else. Scary. And it's not just Lyme they carry. Really scary.
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