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food allergy???

Ok, this isn't about my hav..but the newbie.

Since the day we got him, he's had pretty loose poops. But, he was in a new home, had been given lots of dewormers, they were feeding him adult dog food
I took a bit of that, and changed him over to the puppy food of the same brand. Science Diet. My others are on Bill Jac right now. The vet happened to be out of bill jac puppy food at the time, so I just went with the SD, since that's what he'd been on anyways.
Those are pretty much the only options at our vets. Our petsmart is about 45mins away, and I need to try to keep them on something I can get to fast, if I run out or something (hard enough to remember to keep milk in the fridge for four kids). But, I'm not against trying something else. I just hate buying big bags, cause I don't have anywhere to really store them right now.

Soooo...like I said, he's constantly had yucky poop. Some days it's REALLy bad. I took a stool sample in Mon to check for more parasites and it was neg. They just said he's probably getting used to the food still.
Well, we've noticed he maybe poops once in the day. But, it's in the middle of the night that he whines to be let out, then rushes out to the yard. This happens 3, 4 times a night. Some nights it's only once. There have been a couple that he didn't need out at all. I'm trying to remember if I gave treats more or at all on certains days. Thinking it could be the little treats I use to get everyone to sit down when DH comes in the door.

Anyways, this can't go on. I feel terrible for him. And I'm losing sleep.

I know the treats have chicken, so does the puppy food. Any thoughts on what else I can try?? I'm hitting Petsmart AND the vet's tomorrow to stock up on stuff.

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Tritia - It may be that you switched foods too fast - did you mix the old and new and gradually increase the amount of new? I'm not a big fan of either brand but know that you are limited in what you can get at Pet Smart. Is there a local specialty retailer nearby who could give you some samples of other brands? Chicken can be a culprit in allergies - is he itching or beginning to get some red staining? If not, then it's probably not allergies, just the food change.

For a great place to compare foods, try www.dogfoodanalysis.com. Also, there are many online dog food stores where you can order in the smaller bags of premium kibble (if you order $50 worth, sometimes the shipping is free).


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Yea, I used the little sample bag and just added about a 1/4 of the new each day for about a wk. Then increased it this wk to half, now I'm out and would be at a full serving of new.

I looked through that site and didn't recognize a single one of the higher rated foods. We've tried Nutro before as well as Royal Canin. The Bill Jac seems to agree best with both the other dogs.

He itches his face a lot on the carpet and in the grass. Nothing REALLY bad, though. I know yesterday I gave him several treats while my parents were here. Then last night he had a really bad night. I'm really thinking it had something to do with that.
They had me give him some yogurt the other day, as well. Not sure if it helped. Seems the issue is not constant, though. Which makes me realize I need to pay attention to everything he eats. And limit treats completely till we figure it out.

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Billy has a very similar reaction if he eats chicken-- since we have stopped giving it to him, he has been ok-- he can tolerate chicken jerky though and absolutely loves it, but if he has cooked chicken breast or even wet food with chicken...WATCH OUT!!
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Billy has a very similar reaction if he eats chicken-- since we have stopped giving it to him, he has been ok-- he can tolerate chicken jerky though and absolutely loves it, but if he has cooked chicken breast or even wet food with chicken...WATCH OUT!!

What do you feed him? What brand of food?
I need some good suggestions.

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i feed him natural balance vegetarian formula or the sweet potato and fish variety-- he also has a lamb glucosamine food he eats for hip hip dysplasia-- if we are having beef for dinner, he gets a little bit of that or i use the little cesar meals to mix with the dry-- that's his dinner-- during day he gets the dry mixed with either veges or an egg

he was a pretty big itcher too and since we cut the chicken out, it has slowed down a bit also
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Wow, he eats better then my kids

Thanks for the info. I really need to work on this to make sure he does well.

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Oliver had loose stools until he was 6 months old. His was a combination of problems.

1. He had giardia. This is apparently not always found when they first look so be sure to ask them to check specifically for it. This caused him to have to go poo very often, so probably is not the cause of loose stools in your case. It might be worth checking though. It took two rounds of medicine before Oliver was clear of this.

2. He was allergic to chicken. Now I feed him Natural Balance Duck and Potato exclusively. He can't tolerate the chicken jerky either....he eats duck jerky. I'm very careful about the treats he gets. To train I freeze little balls of the duck and potato food to use for treats. Even a little bit of chicken or different food can get him going again.

3. When I had him neutered (by a new to me vet) this vet FINALLY checked his poop under a microscope. He said it was literally full of a bacteria (sorry can't remember the exact name...it had spira----something in it). He said he always sees a few of these organisms, but Ollie had a lot of them. He gave him an antibiotic and that was the end of the loose stools.

The first 6 months were tough for us. Those loose stools makes everything less fun! I hope you get it sorted out. I don't know if any of my experience will help you, but at least it's a few more possibilities to check. Good luck!

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Shelly, thanks so much. Definitly very helpful. Lets me know I need to be pretty active on this. Just to help us ALL get through it.
He's still un-named, and after last night, dh sent me an email suggesting "squirt"

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