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Does anyone know NY Breeder Jeff

Hi. I'm new to this forum and was wondering if there are any Breeders out there who can help me? Does anyone know anything about this breeder? http://www.jeffshavanese.com/ I've been looking at the havanese for quite a few months and was thinking of purchasing a puppy from him. But I was wondering if his puppies are inbred because it appears that his dogs have puppies every few months. Their not AKC either. Is it very important for a companion dog to AKC?

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Hi and welcome to the forum.

I don't know anything about breeders in NY, but we have a lot of people on this forum who can help you find a good breeder.

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Is this guy saying the mothers are eight months old . . . or less??? I'd have a really strong no on this one. And what about health testing???

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I see nothing about health testing on his website. And he is breeding his mothers very young. This is not a site I feel comfortable about. People on your coast can direct you in another direction.

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Thanks for the Welcome.
He says that they're checked by his vet. I thought I saw him selling Latte a few months ago as a puppy but I was hoping that I was wrong. Where do you see the age of the mothers on the site? If you look at the about us page of his site, he shown with about 8-10 dogs. I wonder if they're all his or from "his" Camp. http://www.jeffshavanese.com/aboutus.php?id=21
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This is just my opinion-ok? But I would not purchase a havanese puppy from the website you posted. If you look around this forum you will find several threads on what to look for. I assume you want a good quality health tested happy havanese......this is just my suggestion to you. Lots of back yard breeders have gotten into the havanese breed to turn a profit. Their business is to strictly sell dogs and make money. Quality havanese breeders health test they pups they produce,stand behind the pup for years or even a lifetime. The contract on this website has 72 hours or something like that? I get a better guarantee on a t-shirt at Walmart then that. I'd run from this one---

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Never heard of this guy. I find it odd that he sells the dogs using a cell phone number. I also do not trust his guarantee. I do not see on his site that he tests his dogs health. On sites that he advertises he states that he does but I do not find it on is own site.

Run !!!!

Spend the extra money. Go to a true breeder who many on this site can point you to. It is worth the money and the headache of not knowing the background of your dog.
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Look for a breeder that will disclose information on both parents in regard to all their health testing. They should be able/willing to give you information on their registered names, AKC registration number or OFA number, so you can go straight to www.offa.org and look it up yourself. (Many, many of us are willing to help you do this too.)

The breeder should be willing to give you pedigree info (names of parents, grandparents, etc.)

The breeder should have a health guarantee that leaves you feeling comfortable and confident. Find out what that includes and how long it lasts. Some breeders only guarantee for a month, others for years, and still others for life.

AKC registration is the only way (in the U.S.) to guarantee the dog is a purebred. There are hundreds of other "registries", but oftentimes a breeder can pay a small fee to get papers to say their dog is "registered" with them.
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He says that the vet checks them out but not "health tested". He was charging $1,200.00 a couple of months ago. Now he's charging $1,800.00 and he doesn't do the tests. I think you are all right, he's out for the money.
The more I think about it he seems like a minature puppy mill. I feel badly for the puppies .
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I'm amazed how many backyard breeders say they get their dogs checked by their vet. Doesn't every pet owner get them checked by a vet? Even so, when was their last check? 2 years ago?

His web site is confusing. When you click on "Meet the parents", it seems to list a whole lot of dogs and I can't tell which ones are the parents. There aren't photos or other info to coincide.
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