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Peeing in crate

Twice now Millie has peed in her crate. Both times we were gone. We have left her four times in two weeks . Twice for two hours and twice for two and a half hours. She is twelve weeks old today. My questions are: Is two and a half hours too long? Or can peeing in her crate be a sign of separation anxiety. She doesn't seem anxious when we leave. She is watching us as we leave though and very aware that we are leaving.
She sleeps from 10:30 til 7:00 every night. We take her outside and play with her for as long as she will let us before we go. We make sure she pees before we go.We give her a Kong smeared with peanut butter before we go. It's always empty when we get back.
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P.s. We leave her in a crate with the doors closed when we go away. She seems to really like her crate when we are home.

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2-3 hours isn't too long for a 12 week puppy. General rule of thumb is month +1. (ie for 3 month old puppy they can be left for an absolute maximum of 4 hours).

It might be that the crate is a bit too large and the puppy just peed in a corner of the crate. Other thing is that you might not have totally got ridden of all the "pee smell" from the crate. You need to use an enzymatic cleaner specifically for pee and toss the bedding that was in there away and use a clean blanket. Make sure the dog has peed before you leave next time and don't let them drink too much water. Don't put too much peanut butter in the kong (it's full of sugar, salt and fat and will make them thirsty), a tiny amount will be just fine (1/4tsp is the most i would ever give small puppy).


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2-3 hours isn't too long for a 12 week puppy. General rule of thumb is month +1. (ie for 3 month old puppy they can be left for an absolute maximum of 4 hours).

It might be that the crate is a bit too large and the puppy just peed in a corner of the crate. Other thing is that you might not have totally got ridden of all the "pee smell" from the crate. You need to use an enzymatic cleaner specifically for pee and toss the bedding that was in there away and use a clean blanket. Make sure the dog has peed before you leave next time and don't let them drink too much water. Don't put too much peanut butter in the kong (it's full of sugar, salt and fat and will make them thirsty), a tiny amount will be just fine (1/4tsp is the most i would ever give small puppy).
We have a divider in her crate. She just fits in it when she is sprawled out. She peed on two totally different blankets. We cleaned out her crate both times with nature's miracle advanced formula spray. We take her water away half of an hour before we go and take her pee 10 minutes before.
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Hmmm, Could you set up a camera to record what happens after you leave to see if she seems stressed?

You could also set up an Xpen outside her crate with a pee pad if you're worried that she needs a place to go. You don't want her to get in the habit of going in the crate.


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Hmmm, Could you set up a camera to record what happens after you leave to see if she seems stressed?

You could also set up an Xpen outside her crate with a pee pad if you're worried that she needs a place to go. You don't want her to get in the habit of going in the crate.
That's exactly what I'm worried about. A habit forming. Can a dog at twelve weeks still be trained to go inside. Her breeder had her trained on wood shavings in a homemade litter box.
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[QUOTE=Sarahdee;730442]We have a divider in her crate. She just fits in it when she is sprawled out. She peed on two totally different blankets. We cleaned out her crate both times with nature's miracle advanced formula spray. We take her water away half of an hour before we go and take her pee 10 minutes before.[/

I would take out the blankets and any cloth crate liners. My trainer suggested that, and my (then) puppy never peed in his crate again. I know it doesn't look comfy, but it worked.
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We have a divider in her crate. She just fits in it when she is sprawled out. She peed on two totally different blankets. We cleaned out her crate both times with nature's miracle advanced formula spray. We take her water away half of an hour before we go and take her pee 10 minutes before.[/

I would take out the blankets and any cloth crate liners. My trainer suggested that, and my (then) puppy never peed in his crate again. I know it doesn't look comfy, but it worked.
You never have a blanket or just when you leave?
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Nope, I never have a blanket. I know it looks uncomfy, but it completely fixed the problem forever. I thought that he needed a blanket, but he really didn't, and it was actually causing the problem. My trainer explained that when the blanket was in he didn't have the potential of having to stand in his own pee (because the blanket absorbed it) , so he went ahead and relieved himself. I took the blanket out, and he never peed in his crate again. That was two years ago. I guess the potential for standing in your own pee was a really good deterrant ;-).
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Nope, I never have a blanket. I know it looks uncomfy, but it completely fixed the problem forever. I thought that he needed a blanket, but he really didn't, and it was actually causing the problem. My trainer explained that when the blanket was in he didn't have the potential of having to stand in his own pee (because the blanket absorbed it) , so he went ahead and relieved himself. I took the blanket out, and he never peed in his crate again. That was two years ago. I guess the potential for standing in your own pee was a really good deterrant ;-).
Part of me wants to try this and part of me feels mean to do it.
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I understand. I felt the same way, but he never missed the blanket, and I haven't missed the pee :-).
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