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First outside walks & potty habits

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He recently completed the final set of vaccinations and after some waiting period we can finally walk him properly. He's been *very* good at that - we have him on a quite short leash and he never tugs or misbehaves in any sense.

We are a bit unsure though about re-training him to save up pee/poop for when we go outside, instead of going on his pad on the balcony.

Our morning ritual now is, we get dressed immediately, open his crate and put on the leash and walk out immediately outside to have a short (15-20 minute) walk around.

There is a nice grass patch almost next to our front door which is frequented by other dogs and he loves to smell and pee there. However, when we return home he will immediately go to his pad and drop some pee (he will strain himself to do so) and poop. If we go on a really long walk he will sometimes just poo while we walk - we only notice because he stopped and the leash is tight.

Now, we aren't quite good on because on a walk schedule. Is 3 times per day (morning, noon, evening) enough? How about feeding, do we do before or after (for morning and evening).

I'm fine and in fact would like keeping the balcony pee-pad as an option, but really want him to understand he should save up for outside.

(I have another post I want to make about marking, but I believe at almost 5 months he is starting to exhibit that as well - especially on the just-laid-down carpets!)
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Treat "marking" as any other pee accidents. If you catch him in the act interrupt and take him to his potty spot. He should learn that he can only release urine in acceptable potty places (outside or pee pads). If you can't keep eyes on him and read him so that you can get him to his potty spot in time to pee then you need to confine him. Every time he has an accident in an inappropriate place it's a setback in getting him reliably housetrained. Many folks make the mistake of allowing too much freedom too soon and then struggle with helping their dog develop reliable potty habits.


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3 walks a day is usually plenty. We only do more if Zelda is waiting by the door and clearly has more energy to burn. Or can't unwind because her day was too exciting.

We used to walk her first thing in the morning until it got too dark. Now she gets breakfast first and we go out a little later. Both seem to work fine with her. She was a little annoyed when we made the switch but doesn't mind now. Same with dinner. We might walk before or after. I actually prefer not keeping a strict schedule because I don't want to set expectations. My childhood dog would flip out if she didn't get dinner precisely at 5:00 pm. I don't want that situation!

As far as the outdoor potty thing... We were still having occasional random accidents inside and our breeder suggested not letting her potty outside at all. Based on the idea that just letting a dog potty anywhere outside isn't really training, it just letting them do whatever they want. On long walks when we can tell she's gotta go, we tell her which outdoor space is acceptable and give the potty command. Otherwise, we keep the walk moving. It seems to be helping. We have her potty in her litter box before and after walks and that takes care if most of it. I guess it depends on if you want to keep the indoor option or switch totally to outside. It seems like there are so many ways to do this.

Potty training was a little tricky with Zelda because she really doesn't care that much about praise. We would throw the most exciting potty party ever and she'd often look bored and walk away. Or give me the "you're an idiot but I love you anyway" look. Funny girl. But she loves praise for doing tricks or obeying other commands. Maybe because we used treats when we taught those behaviors? I don't know. Good luck!


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I wouldn't worry about "training" him to go outside. I don't think there's a person on the forum who hasn't found that EVENTUALLY, their dog started to PREFER going outside, and used the indoor option less and less. In fact, typically, when this happens you need to start reinforcing the use of the indoor potty option HEAVILY, if you want to maintain that as a choice.


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Sounds like things are overall going well. I would keep the inside option. I was in a rush to get her to go outside and now I wish Colbie would still go inside ,like during a rainstorm Adverse weather doesn't seem to bother her.

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Thanks for the responses. What I want to train him is to actually hold it in until he goes for a walk. He does have quite good bladder control, as when I confine him to the office with me he can spend hours without having any issues. However, if the balcony door is inside, he will go and stand there every much more often.
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Thanks for the responses. What I want to train him is to actually hold it in until he goes for a walk. He does have quite good bladder control, as when I confine him to the office with me he can spend hours without having any issues. However, if the balcony door is inside, he will go and stand there every much more often.
I don't think this is really an issue of training... I think it just comes with time... no matter what you do.


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