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My 9-week-old puppy Fitz doesn't seem to have much of an appetite. He tends to get distracted when eating, and we have to hold him by his food for him to eat it. The food is the same kind he was eating at the breeder, so it's not that it's a new food for him. His energy is very high, so I'm not worried that he is sick. We've been feeding him 1/4 cup dry food 3 times a day, and he only eats about half of it each time. Is this normal? His food bowl is in his ex pen, which he hates (he managed to unlock it and escape this morning when he was home alone). We put the food bowl there as an enticement to get him to like his pen more- do you think that might be the reason he's not eating much? His water bowl is also there and he drinks out of it frequently.
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How long have you had him? Manny was finicky when we first brought him home but otherwise seemed fine. I spent a couple of days hand feeding him to make sure he got enough to eat plus to give me some peace of mind that nothing else was going on. Now that he's acclimated he eats fine, tho he does get distracted if anything else is going on. Nine weeks is young and he's been thrown into totally new surroundings without him mom and littermates. If I were really concerned I'd call my vet and run it by him/her.

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DawnH, I've had him for 8 days now. The one food I have found that he LOVES is rotisserie chicken (he's got good taste, what can I say?) I've been giving him small bits as a training reward, but now I'm wondering if I've spoiled him with that, as his kibble probably doesn't taste quite as good. Will puppies self-regulate the amount of food they need?
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Will puppies self-regulate the amount of food they need?
Not usually.

The best advice I've heard is to determine the proper quantity based upon age, weight and consultations with your breeder, Vets and possibly a nutritionist.

Keep regular feeding times - 3 times a day for young puppies (breakfast, lunch and dinner) eventually weening to 2 times a day (breakfast and dinner) for older pups. You can guage when to eliminate the noon feeding by the fact that your pup will start eating less and less during it.


Keep the food down for only a set period of time. Many experts and a well respected member our community suggests keeping it down for only 5 minutes and to remove any uneaten food after the 5 minutes. This will train your pup to eat on schedule and to eat what (s)he needs.

Dana and I kept and keep the food down for an hour before removing it. It works for us and Gibbs.

As hard as it is sometimes, you should refrain from giving your puppy "the good people food" with his feedings. They do learn that if they hold out long enough for "the good stuff", you will eventually give in and feed the rotisserie chicken.

Gibbs has learned the word "chicken" and runs to the kitchen as soon as he hears it. We feed him one raw chicken wing with bone for dinner.

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DawnH, I've had him for 8 days now. The one food I have found that he LOVES is rotisserie chicken (he's got good taste, what can I say?) I've been giving him small bits as a training reward, but now I'm wondering if I've spoiled him with that, as his kibble probably doesn't taste quite as good. Will puppies self-regulate the amount of food they need?
I'm new to Havanese but I bred Shelties many years ago. My experience with Shelties (and every other dog I've owned) has been that once they get a taste of the good stuff, dog food is just that...dog food. That may be your problem. I'm feeding kibble and haven't offered Manny anything human but I suspect that my breeder's children may have snuck him a few bites from the table. Everytime we sit down to eat he goes ballistic as soon as he smells it. He's getting better about it but still perks up when he smells human food.

As far as self-regulating amounts? I that found that some of my puppies were moderate eaters and others were pigs who would eat as long and as much as you left down for them. Once they got away from the pack and knew they wouldn't be shortchanged at the food bowl most self-regulated but there are some piggish puppies so you've gotta think about their weight. I feed the amounts recommended by the dog food manufacturer and find that Manny doesn't quite finish it so I feel ok with the amounts he's getting.

There are some interesting threads here on alternatives to kibble. You should check those out. I'm still not certain I'm ready to change from kibble but there's a wealth of information in the posts.
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3/4 cup of kibble a day seems like a lot for a 9 week old puppy. Try cutting each meal in half 1/8 cup per meal and offer for 5-10 minutes at each meal then put the food away until the next meal. If he eats all the food you offer for one day increase the amount you offer the next day by a little bit. You can do some training with the meal to have the puppy work for his dinner. Some will do better this way. Do cut out the human food for now unless you need a really high value treat such as to reinforce coming when called.


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I agree, 3/4 cup of kibble a day is alot of food for a little puppy. Lilly is almost 3 years old and weighs about 11 pounds and she only eats 1/4 cup of food twice a day (it is not kibble, but dehydrated raw). When she was eating kibble, I think she got less than 1/3 cup twice a day. Also, all treats and other goodies add up quickly.
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If your budget will allow I would get rid of the kibble.

My hav is from time to time a finicky eater. Some days he wolfs his food down and looks at me for more. Other days he will leave some. I realize now it is normal for him. I do take the food away though if he doesnt eat it after a few minutes.

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Ooh I sympathise. I stressed over Charlie's eating as he was a very picky eater when we first got him. I tried being strict and taking it away after 30 mins but he just didn't eat. Tried various different kibble which he would eat initially but seemed to get bored with very soon. I made the mistake of dressing it up with grated cheese so then he wouldn't eat anything without cheese.

We struggled on like this for a couple of months and then I tried the freeze-dried raw food called Ziwipeak which he loved and ate every scrap within 5 minutes. It's more expensive but as easy as kibble to feed and is much higher quality.

Have a look at their website online and I think a few people on here have asked for and received samples to try with their Havs.
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Thank you for all of the advice, everyone! Tonight he ate some of his dinner, and the rest I used as training "treats." He ended up eating it all! I haven't been able to find any treats that he loves. I have Blue Bits right now, which he seems okay with, but he doesn't really get excited with them. That will be trial and error, I guess.
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