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Question loose poopy wellness food

Ok, so Harry 4.5 m old was on eukanuba puppy, and I thought I needed to switch to something better quality, now it seems like he has loose stools or definatley not very firm. He has even started pooping in his crate overnight. So, I am thinking it is the wellness? Any one else have this experience, or suggestions? Maybe I should switch to a different high quality but I don't know what is exactly in the wellness that could be causing it, so I know what to avoid in a future brand. Was thinking of Canidae, solid gold, innova...
What does everyone out there think? I am really disappointed, I thought I found the one, maybe he just does better with the cheaper stuff?
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The optimal balance of nutrient-rich whole foods to fulfill the unique health needs of your growing puppy.

Natural Source of DHA - Supports Brain Development

Supports Bone & Muscle Development

Smaller Kibble Size for Smaller Mouths

Holistically formulated for the complete health of your developing puppy. Provides whole-body nutritional support during the important foundation year.




ENERGY FOR GROWTH & PLAY


Carbohydrates provide energy. We use oatmeal, barley and brown rice because they're easy to digest and full of nutrients.

DHA - SUPPORTS BRAIN DEVELOPMENT


We guarantee the level of DHA on every bag. Research suggests this important fatty acid helps support cognitive development, vital to learning and training.

STRONG TEETH & BONES


Puppies need the right mineral balance to ensure bones grow at the proper rate. We guarantee our levels of calcium and phosphorus on every bag.

HEALTHY MUSCLE GROWTH


Puppies need increased amounts of protein. We use high quality sources including deboned chicken and salmon meal.

OPTIMAL NUTRIENT ABSORPTION


We ensure excellent nutrient digestibility through our Digestool™ confirmation studies - less nutrients in the stool, means more nutrients stay in the body.

GUARANTEED GREAT TASTE


With satisfaction guaranteed, we use deboned chicken and salmon meal to provide a taste that puppies love.






In addition to our quality protein and wholesome grains, this Super5Mix® recipe includes a unique mix of complementary ingredients for overall wellbeing. We call it our 5 for Life™ Supplement System.

Fruit & Veggie Antioxidant Rainbow

WellCoat® Omega 3 & 6 Mix

Botanical & Herb Blend

Essential Vitamins & Minerals

ActiCoat™ with Live Micro-organisms



Thoughtfully Made with Whole-foods: Deboned Chicken • Oatmeal • Carrots • Spinach • Sweet Potatoes • Apples • Blueberries • Ground Flaxseed



Never Any: Meat By-Products • Wheat • Corn • Soy • Artificial Colors or Flavors • Artificial Preservatives


Product Ingredients | Ingredient Index | Vitamins/Minerals
Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Oatmeal, Ground Barley, Salmon Meal (a natural source of DHA - Docosahexaenoic Acid), Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a natural source of Vitamin E), Ground Brown Rice, Tomato Pomace, Rice Bran, Tomatoes, Natural Chicken Flavor, Rye Flour, Carrots, Spinach, Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries, Ground Millet, Ground Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Minerals [Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite], Vitamins [Beta-Carotene, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Vitamin A Supplement, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement], Choline Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a natural preservative), Chicory Root Extract, Garlic, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Green Tea Extract, Dried Lactobacillus plantarum, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation products.

This is a naturally preserved product.

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein Not Less Than 28.0%
Crude Fat Not Less Than 17.0%
Crude Fiber Not More Than 5.0%
Moisture Not More Than 11.0%
Calcium Not Less Than 1.30%
Phosphorus Not Less Than 1.00%
Vitamin E Not Less Than 150 IU/kg
Omega 6 Fatty Acids Not Less Than 3.0%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids Not Less Than 1.0%
Beta Carotene* Not Less Than 5 mg/kg
DHA* Not Less Than 0.13%
Lycopene* Not Less Than 0.25 mg/kg
Taurine* Not Less Than 0.09%
Total Micro-organisms* Not Less Than 20,000,000 CFU/lb

(L. plantarum, E. faecium, L. casei, L. acidophilus in equal amounts)

* Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles.

Calories Analysis
This food contains 3,800 kcal per kilogram or 450 kcal per cup ME (metabolizable energy) on an as fed basis (calculated

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I've had a lot of trouble with loose stools, too. Still haven't found a 100% solution. But, if you search on this site for thread on this subject you'll find an abundance of threads on the topics. I can tell you though that apparently Canidae changed their formula a couple of years ago, and I've been warned away from it. I guess that there is a lot of variety in what dogs do best on, food wise.

Good luck. I know this is one that affects daily living so much because of all the messy backsides!

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what do you feed, I noticed that on the food poll, Innova won, was wondering if that produces good tootsie rolls

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check this site out http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index....eeding_puppies


every dog is different. It is important to switch gradually The best $22 I ever spent was on a consultation (on line) with Sabine at The Dog Food Project. You won't regret it.

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Did you do a slow, gradual switch over the course of 4-5 days? Or did you just give him a bowl of Wellness? You need to switch them over to a new food very slowly, or it will upset their stomaches-
I have feed Wellness for a couple years now and I love it. My puppies get the puppy food, my adults the adult food.


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I think that not one food works for all dogs.
Todd used to eat Orijen but he had soft poop on it and so I switched him to Innova EVO.
He's had wonderful results with EVO.
I would try it and see if it works for you...if not there are TONS of good foods out there and I'm sure that you'll find one that works well for Harry.

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Yes, I did a gradual switch, and he has been on it exclusively for about a week now... not diarreah, but soft or loose blobs
I am leaning towards solid gold or innova

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you are right Eva ,like I said every dog is different. Orijen and Evo are two of the best foods out there but one of them might not be right for your dog. I would disagree however , I don' think there are many "good" ones out there. After getting my consult. from Sabine I am switching to canned food from Evo. There are many benefits of canned over kibble.

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great puppy food.

We use FROMM"S we love it. Family owned out of Wisconsin. Our 6 month old has been on it for several months and does well. We just got her little brother who is 2 months old. THe breeder was doing soft mixed w/ dry. So we are using the Wellness canned puppy and our little one has blobby poopy. We are going to switch him over to all dry over the course of the next month. I don't know if it is the richness of the canned or bc it's wellness. But I would really check out the FROMM's. Ours is so picky we have 4 flavors and switch them daily.
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We use FROMM"S we love it. Family owned out of Wisconsin. Our 6 month old has been on it for several months and does well. We just got her little brother who is 2 months old. THe breeder was doing soft mixed w/ dry. So we are using the Wellness canned puppy and our little one has blobby poopy. We are going to switch him over to all dry over the course of the next month. I don't know if it is the richness of the canned or bc it's wellness. But I would really check out the FROMM's. Ours is so picky we have 4 flavors and switch them daily.
The most common cause of soft stools is overfeeding. There generally is no difference between canned food and kibble when it comes to stools. The problems quite often occur when the transition is too quick. For problems with soft stools ,you can add a little canned pumpkin -no salt ,not the type for pie fillings. When transitioning from kibble to canned it helps to start with a lower fat content variety.

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