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Hi! New to the Forum. I have a 7 month old Havanese. He is truly adorable and meets the description of 'typical' Havanese in most areas. I do have some concerns and could use some ideas/support. Hoping to find some here!
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Welcome to you and Hugo! Do tell about Hugo! I'm not of much help as I have raised A WILD BEAST but others have good advice!
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Although Hugo seems playful, happy and is growing well, he has had gastrointestinal issues for about 2 1/2 months. Prior to this, he was able to eat pretty much everything without issue. He was in puppy class and they emphasized using food rewards, so he got a LOT of reinforcers! Shortly after the class ended, he developed loose stools to the point he was waking us up every two hours (ugh)! Since then it's been up and down. He's been on antibiotics frequently, which seems to help, but he can't stay on them forever. He currently is on a prescription diet and gets NO treats, which makes it hard to shape behavior. Prescription kibble loses it's charm as a reinforcer pretty quickly. He's had a number of tests, including the Texas GI Panel, and everything's normal. The vet wonders if the stress of receiving his series of puppy shots and then getting neutered affected him and his system needs time to recover. I'm wondering if a delicate GI tract is typical of Havanese. Might he outgrow it?

In addition, after playing at puppy daycare Hugo was clearly hurting in his hip. X-rays showed that he has 'shallow' sockets in his hips. Is this something Havanese are prone to?
Lastly, Hugo's having a difficult time feeling comfortable meeting new people. Barking a lot and even growling, but no snapping. Trying to work with him on this. Is it unusual for this breed? Any help appreciated!
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Welcome to the forum! I am sorry your little guy is having some difficulties. My girl started having a lot of GI issues at about 18 months old. We were constantly at the vets and having to go on metronidizole. They wanted to put us on prescription food but I asked to try a limited ingredient diet first. I eliminated all chicken and picked lamb as the only protein she gets. It has worked out well for us and her GI issues are gone. I give her a daily probiotic along with freeze dried or raw lamb as a topper to her limited ingredient kibble. When my last dog was on a prescription diet for her bladder stones I used treats that Hills sells that are compatible with their prescription foods and I also made treats out of the canned prescription food by baking it into hard bones. My dog loves people but hates most dogs. They certainly all have their own little quirks! I hope you find the answers you need to help your little guy.



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Thanks, Molly! My vet wants to go slowly on changing diets, but has mentioned trying a different protein if issues continue. It's reassuring to hear from someone who has successfully resolved this issue! Thanks for the tip about baking the canned food! Finding treats to shape behavior is a challenge when options are limited!

What's weird is Hugo is perfectly happy to go play with dogs he doesn't know at daycare, but if he meets them on a walk it's a different story. I wonder if the issue with strange people is he thinks he's protecting us.

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My Quincy had issues for a while when we first got him. What really helped was probiotics for a few weeks. Set him right and he has had no issues since.





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Thanks, Ollie's mom! Hugo has been on probiotics for some time. Unfortunately, it hasn't been enough for him.
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Welcome! We have never had any GI issues, but my friend has with her Westie. He done very well on a rabbit diet for several years now.

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Havanese have very flexible hips, and often an xray won't even give a decent representation of exactly what you have.

There aren't many real hip problems in the breed, but many bad xrays taken, and the place that rates hips does not take into consideration the quality of the xray. It's not their fault, since they have to have a good xray to give a good rating. It's a complicated subject, and few understand it. The view needs to be the correct angle, and the legs can't be pulled on at all in positioning the dog. I've seen more than one dog get a dysplastic rating, and then, on submitting better xrays, the same dog can get an Excellent. The hips didn't get better, but were just presented in better xrays for the rating. You can easily make good hips look bad, but you can't make bad hips look good. Pam had to teach our Vet how to take Havanese hip xrays, and still it might take a couple of tries before they can take one without pulling on a leg.

If the dog is anesthetized to take the xray, it's easier to get a good one, but we won't put a dog under for one more notch up on the scale.

If you can post a picture of the xray, I can explain what we're looking at. Without even seeing the xray, I'd give at least a 50 percent chance that "shallow socket" means poor xray.
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