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HELP: Allergic?

Hello. I have been looking at havanese puppies because I have allergies and love their breed. I went to a breeders house where she had at least 8 dogs running around that I was playing with. I gave the puppy some head kisses and tried to test her out with my allergies. After a little while it seemed like my allergies worsened ever so slightly. I am not sure if this is because I am allergic to that particular puppy, if I am allergic to the other havaneses’, if it was something in the breeders house, or what. Does anyone have any experience with this? I’m not sure what to do because I have been taking allergy shots for over a year in hopes of getting a dog and, and I found a wonderful breeder and a wonderful pup that has a wonderful temperament. I just don’t want to find out I’m actually allergic to her later! Does anyone have any tips or advice? I don’t want to buy the puppy if I won’t be able to live with her. Thank you in advance. I really look forward to hearing from you all.
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It is possible that you are having an allergic reaction to the dog. There are others that have bought Havanese and then found out that someone in the family is allergic then have to sell them.
Sorry if this is your case with the dog.

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Unfortunately, it's really hard to say. Do you have any friends with Havanese so that you could spend time with another Havanese? Does the breeder have an older, retired Havanese that she would let you "borrow" for a weekend "trial" to see how your allergies were?

Just thinking off the top of my head here. There is no such thing as a TOTALLY hypoallergenic breed. Havanese are certainly less likely to cause allergies than many breeds. I can't tolerate most breeds, but I am fine with Havanese. I feel really bad for you, but there are no easy answers here.
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I have year round allergies, one kid with allergies, and another kid with respiratory issues, so I did some research on this when I started looking into breeds. Youíll want to do your own research based on your own unique health needs, but we decided that since none of us have extreme symptoms, it was worth the risk, and that choosing a hypoallergenic breed lessened that risk. We knew it was possible that one of us would have symptoms even with a hypoallergenic dog. DSís medical treatment team okayíed the idea because of the potential benefits to him emotionally (he is chronically sick and out of school and had been asking for a puppy for so long). DD and I both use allergy treatments. DD uses Flonase year round and prescription oral medication during allergy season and I use both year round. Both of us are symptomatic if we miss doses. But, thereís no way to know if thatís because of our dog or our other allergies. Regardless, both of us have only flares of really mild, completely manageable symptoms with treatment, and both of us have bad enough allergies weíd continue year round treatment whether or not we had a pet. DS has not had any respiratory issues.

Depending on how allergic you are and what specifically you are allergic to, itís possible you could manage some of it. You mentioned possibly being allergic to something at the breeders house, which I completely relate to because I find my nose goes crazy and my eyes burn all the time at other peopleís homes, but in my own home where I know I donít use things that Iím sensitive to, itís much easier. You also have control over how often you bathe a puppy, whether or not you groom him yourself, whether or not he sleeps in your bed, etc. Knowing if you are allergic to dander, saliva, or even dog shampoo might make a difference.

Itís definitely an important factor to consider. Have you spoken to the breeder about it? Or your own doctor? They might have recommendations for you that would help you decide.
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yeah, we are all allergic to everything. cats would be a hard no because I literally can't be in the same room without tears running down my face, eyes itching and sneezing, etc. but I take allergy meds daily anyway. it's been no worse. But I often stop the allergy meds (for me, this doesn't work for my husband) in the dead of winter when there's no pollen. Did the same this year and I'm fine with the dog. I can't say if it's the breed, though because dogs were never the worst for me. We've had other breeds, and since I'm allergic to every living thing, it didn't matter one way or another. But if you have severe symptoms as I do with cats, I would not trust the Havanese as being necessarily hypoallergenic. That's really a stretch. If you react to ANY small dander, you'll react to a Hav. If you are more dose dependent, you might be okay. It's not that Havs have NO pet dander. It's that they don't shed, so less is present in the air.

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Eva Elizabeth and Melissa both made very good points. I have lots of allergies too. When I was a kid, I PURPOSELY exposed myself to horses... over and over and over, huge asthma attacks and all, until my body adjusted. Most people wouldn't do it, most doctors would not recommend it, but I did it, and it worked. I had a cat in my life continually until recently when our elderly kitty passed. I was "OK" with OUR cat, but other people's cats made my eyes itchy. Most dogs were too much for my allergies, My Havanese are OK.

There is also "trigger stacking". In the spring, when the tree pollen is bad, ANYTHING can set me off. Even hand cream I'm usually OK using. I have to be careful about what shampoo I bathe my dogs in. Some of those I react to badly. (but the same is true of laundry detergent...)

For some people, dog allergies (animal allergies) are SO bad that they are life-threatening, and you just have to stay away. Only you and your doctor can make that decision. For many people, it is a matter of deciding whether you are willing to and CAN manage the symptoms. When I decided I wanted a dog, I KNEW I'd managed other animal allergies, I KNEW I was picking a low allergy breed and was DETERMINED to make it work. Whatever it took. But it's not fair to expect that of ANYONE else. It's something that everyone has to decide for themselves!
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DH and I knew we wanted a dog but had to be very careful due to his allergies. (He became allergic to his own teacup poodle after going off to college ...) We had been planning on getting a Coton de Tulťar, but when we went to a breeder's house, DH reacted (hives), and the dog was very stand-offish, so we eliminated that breed. Completely by chance, we saw a cute little brown dog at Itasca State Park (headwaters of the Mississippi), and found out two things from its owner: 1) it was called a Havanese, and 2) the owner's wife, who is VERY allergic to dogs, does NOT react to the Havanese! We went to the home of a Havanese breeder, DH did not have an allergic reaction, and we ended up getting a puppy from that breeder. (Photos below from then and now ...) DH is VERY allergic to most dogs. You are right to be giving this a lot of thought to make sure you will really be able to KEEP the dog that you bring home. I think you need to meet and spend time with more Havanese ... BTW, DH won't take any sort of allergy shots. He just tries to avoid the allergens. (Even though dogs LOVE him. I always have to protect him from them when we encounter people walking dogs and not keeping them under control ...)
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Hello. I have been looking at havanese puppies because I have allergies and love their breed. I went to a breeders house where she had at least 8 dogs running around that I was playing with. I gave the puppy some head kisses and tried to test her out with my allergies. After a little while it seemed like my allergies worsened ever so slightly. I am not sure if this is because I am allergic to that particular puppy, if I am allergic to the other havaneses’, if it was something in the breeders house, or what. Does anyone have any experience with this? I’m not sure what to do because I have been taking allergy shots for over a year in hopes of getting a dog and, and I found a wonderful breeder and a wonderful pup that has a wonderful temperament. I just don’t want to find out I’m actually allergic to her later! Does anyone have any tips or advice? I don’t want to buy the puppy if I won’t be able to live with her. Thank you in advance. I really look forward to hearing from you all.
I WILL say that it’s practically impossible to be allergic to one specific puppy, pick another, and be okay with that one (of the same breed). It MIGHT be possible that the sheer number of dogs at the breeder’s house would worsen your allergies while one dog in your own house would not. I think if I were in your situation I would find a way to babysit a hav in your own environment first.
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Those puppy pics of Shama are the cutest!
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It MIGHT be possible that the sheer number of dogs at the breeder’s house would worsen your allergies while one dog in your own house would not.
Definitely! That’s what I was thinking, too.

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I think if I were in your situation I would find a way to babysit a hav in your own environment first.
Especially if you found a breeder and have already visited and have been building a relationship with them. I think it’s pretty common for people seeking Havanese to be looking for a hypoallergenic dog so the breeder may be able to help.
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