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Crate vs expen vs small room

In the past we have crated our dogs (Havanese and other), but after some bad crate experiences with one of our dogs, we are considering using a small room when we need to leave Poesy (our only dog now) home alone. She sleeps in her hard-sided kennel at night and is calm and quiet in her smaller kennel in the vehicle, but we are hoping to give her more freedom during the day when we are gone now and then for a few hours.
I'll be looking through old threads, but if anyone has any new thoughts to share on using a small room, I would love to hear them!
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We’ve never crated when leaving the house. Puppies we always used an expen set up, then expanded from there as they matured. Our wheaten was penned in the kitchen until he started climbing the 3ft expen walls. Then he was confined to the laundry room, but I hated that since it was dingy and jail-cell like. Then we installed baby gates and he had the run of the main floor of our house when we were gone (kitchen, hallway, bedroom).

With Denver (our current hav) we are still at the expen stage. Not sure what we’ll do when he’s older since he can squish under our existing baby gates (found this one out the hard way). But we have a while to figure it out.

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I use a baby gate to keep Molly in my mud room when I am gone for several hours. She has her crate in there along with food, water, toys, etc. This arrangement has worked well for us. She does not use an indoor potty system but if she did, that would go in there as well.



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We’ve never crated when leaving the house. Puppies we always used an expen set up, then expanded from there as they matured. Our wheaten was penned in the kitchen until he started climbing the 3ft expen walls. Then he was confined to the laundry room, but I hated that since it was dingy and jail-cell like. Then we installed baby gates and he had the run of the main floor of our house when we were gone (kitchen, hallway, bedroom).

With Denver (our current hav) we are still at the expen stage. Not sure what we’ll do when he’s older since he can squish under our existing baby gates (found this one out the hard way). But we have a while to figure it out.
Thanks! You mentioned that your wheaten climbed the expen walls. Did he not climb the baby gates as well?
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I use a baby gate to keep Molly in my mud room when I am gone for several hours. She has her crate in there along with food, water, toys, etc. This arrangement has worked well for us. She does not use an indoor potty system but if she did, that would go in there as well.
Thanks! Is there a reason you use a baby gate instead of just closing the door?
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The baby gates we use just have vertical bars, so there was no way for him to climb up with the top and bottom being so far apart

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Good to know! Thanks!

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Thanks! Is there a reason you use a baby gate instead of just closing the door?
The area I consider my mud room is a tiled area that you enter into my home from my garage. There is a built in bench and coat hook area. It opens up into the rest of my house without a door. There is a closet, powder room and laundry room coming off from it that all have doors that can close. I like to give her as much room as possible so I put the gate across the opening and she can have space but not be able to get in the rest of the house. I usually give her access to the powder room and laundry room too so the light can come in from the windows and she is not so closed in. I only started doing this after she was fully potty trained.



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Thanks! I go back and forth between thinking the closed door is more secure and thinking she will feel less isolated with a gate.

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Have always used a small hall bathroom with a swing gate across for Cassie when we leave her home alone. We use the gate rather than closing the door because it seems like a nicer arrangement although the bathroom does have a window. Did use a small puppy pen to confine her while we ate dinner when she was small, but my house just doesn’t work for an expen and our kitchen opens into family room so kitchen confinement would have been hard to gate. When she needed a time out when puppy, felt better about not shutting a door on her but using the swinging gate. Did have a hard time getting a gate she couldn’t slip thru.

She has bed, potty pad and water dish in her bathroom...
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