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I am new to the forum...I have a 12 month old Havapoo...she looks very much like a purebred except her hair is slightly wavy. She hates to have her hair brushed so I can only do one small section at a time. I hope to learn how to develop a better strategy so that she does not get so many mats in her hair.
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Combing down to the skin will help you keep the mats away better than brushing. I usually have to break the grooming up into a couple sessions to get Molly all done because she hates it so much.
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I am new to the forum...I have a 12 month old Havapoo...she looks very much like a purebred except her hair is slightly wavy. She hates to have her hair brushed so I can only do one small section at a time. I hope to learn how to develop a better strategy so that she does not get so many mats in her hair.
Welcome. I have a half breed too (half papillon). My Mia used to hate being brushed until I got a Chris Christensen brass fusion brush. She loves this brush.

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Lots of treats! Mine doesn’t mind being brushed but he has always been on the extra wiggly side. I worked up in time slowly and cut up treats into pinch sizes so I could use them frequently. If I didn’t have much time I prioritized the armpit area and his back where the harness rests because they’re more likely to mat.

I don’t know much about the differences in coat, but you might want to try a wood pin brush. It doesn’t remove mats but my Havanese LOVES to be brushed with it. Since your puppy is a bit older you might be able to use it just to get him more comfortable with the grooming process and then start introducing a more “efficient” comb or brush for your puppy’s coat and increase the time. I mostly groom with a comb but I still find my wooden pin brush really useful for things like quick brushings to remove leaves, or if I don’t have time to comb him out, 30 seconds with the brush is better than skipping grooming altogether.
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I used a wooden pin brush at first. It is very gentle and I feel it did help Mia to like brushing. However, I find it does nothing to get out loose hair and prevent mats. That is why I switched to the Chris Christensen brass fusion brush. Mia loves it. Mia rarely gets a mat since I started using it. It is great to use before combing them too.
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Welcome and we need photos! I actually don't brush Willow but do comb her once a day or sometimes every other day. She hates to be brushed. The comb works better, I feel, at removing mats and knots. As others have said, you need to comb down to the skin.



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Eliminating mats is pretty easy, even for long hair, if you routinely comb your dog, using a Stainless or Metal Comb to get down to the base of the hair, in addition, to keeping the hair clean with a good moisturizer to soften the hair.

Once you figure out you have to comb and brush frequently, most of the matting battles are won. If the dog goes outside and gets wet, you may need to comb the hair after they come in, especially if the hair is long. Setting up a schedule helps, like first thing in the morning and evening. A quick comb with a treat.

Dirty hair mats easier than clean hair. I try to bath my dog once a week but sometimes go longer. Shorter hair is easier.

When you find a mat, lightly mist it and gently pull it apart with your fingers, then comb through it. For really stubborn mats, I cut through them with thinning scissors and then tease and comb it out. There maybe times you need to cut the mat out, especially under the arm pits or on the butt. Those are very painful when combing so I try and not let those even get started.

Use a light weight conditioner and mist the hair as you comb, it will help hair breakage.

Christian Christian has nice but expensive stainless steal combs. I have two - one is a very small comb used for the paws, around the face, ears, chin and underneath under the arms and chest. I used it exclusively all over when Patti was smaller and a puppy with finer hair. I still use it on Patti's body but I mainly use the large stainless steel comb on her back and the outsides of her legs. She's about 14lbs and 2 years old now.

I, also, have a brush, I use less frequently for smoothing. Patti loves the brush, it feels good. But, the metal combs are MUST in getting down to the skin to keep mats out.

Patti is wiggly and play-bites at the comb. Waiting until she's tired cuts down on the wiggles and not spending a lot of time in one session combing helps.

A MUST .. COMPLETELY COMB THROUGH THE HAIR AND ELIMINATE ALL MATTS BEFORE BATHING.
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Welcome to the forum! What's your dog's name? Can we see a photo?

Lots of good advice in this thread.

Is this the brass fusion brush you all have? 27 mm?




Below are photos showing Shama's Chris Christensen wooden pin brush and the little comb that we use to remove mats and on her face and head. I actually use this comb all over her little (8.5-pound) body, but I always start with the brush. And detangler for sure so that I'm not brushing or combing dry hair.

I think this might be my brush:




I think this is my comb. I know my comb is not a Chris Christensen comb.




Tip: get a second comb to keep in your dog bag. My brush and detangler stay home unless I'm going somewhere overnight, but I always have a comb.

This is the detangler I use. I tried Ice on Ice, but I prefer this one that I found at Petco:

https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcos...tangling-spray

Tip: put your detangler in a smaller spray bottle for easier use.

Can you all post pictures of your dogs with your combs and brushes?
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As requested @ShamaMama .... I did Screen Shots of the combs I use and then saved them as JPG files. Screen Shots are PNG files and I've had trouble loading them onto the Havanese Form, and now change them to JPG files.

Here's Patti with a 2-week-old hair cut along with photos of the combs and brush that I use. I use these everyday or every time I comb and brush her. She's dirty and needs a bath.

I first purchased the Andis 7.5 metal comb for $9.95 but after hearing how WONDERFUL Christ Christsens Buttercombs were I purchased those along with a CC Slicker comb.

To be honest ... I cannot tell the difference between the $10 Andis Comb and $50 CC Buttercomb 7.5 inch Course/Fine combes, when combing Patti's hair. But, I accept the rational CC Buttercombs probably do less damage to hair, although I'm not sure if this matters since I'm going to keep Patti's hair trimmed and have no interested in maintaining long hair.

I use Ice on Ice Detangler as a Spray Mist and think it is fine but haven't found it any better than other conditioner mist sprays that I've tried.
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ShamaMama, yes the link you posted to the brass fusion brush looks like the one I have. Can’t figure out where the reviews are coming from that say the pins fell out! They must have gotten pretty rough with it. I like brushing with this first and then combing. It makes the combing much easier.
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