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Hello again & many thanks for all the replies, many very thoughtful & helpful, & all much appreciated. I am not tech proficient (at all) & just praying I won't mess up the entire site by trying to reply to you all here. When I feel safe enough to break my self-isolation (assuming no new, major concerns w/Taffy develop), will definitely talk to the vet about this issue & some of your other suggestions. Thanks again - be well! Now back to witnessing the destruction of democracy - somehow that's got me a bit distracted.
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Although I think a vet can provide some helpful feedback to guide us in making an end of life decision for our pet, ultimately it still up to us and I think it is unfair to expect a vet to make this decision for us. I had this happen to me recently with one of my cats. He really seemed to be suffering and I thought it was time to put him down. I took him to the vet to ask her opinion. I wound up leaving there with my cat no closer to making the decision than when I went in. I think I unfairly expected her somehow to make this decision for me to “alleviate my guilt”. She was totally noncommittal and to be honest I understand this completely and do not blame her at all. I think in many cases we know more than the vet when it is “time”. I was back a few days later to put my cat down. It was all my decision and I finally knew in my heart that it was time.
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Hi mimser,
Our oldest is 15, he’s the one below licking our bunny. He is deaf and blind also and wears a belly band all the time. We thought he wouldn’t make it through the night 6 months ago and started him on Gabapentin. It was a big help and we could pick him up without him screaming. JoJo also has to be carried up and down the stairs. He has had several teeth pulled but manages to eat just fine. Like Taffy, his appetite is still strong! After 12 years of dementia with my mother-in-law (8 with my dad) it was clear 2 years ago that JoJo had it also and our vet agreed. He’s following the same path of my mother-in-law. He also has seizures occasionally and patellar luxation but neither have ever slowed him down in the past.
We’ve done exactly what Boosdad does. JoJo has a specific path he follows and if anything is in the way he just climbs over it or stops until he gets help. Shortly after getting Jodie I researched info on deaf and blind toddlers and how they transition from parallel play to engagement. Detecting air movement is a vital skill for interacting as are distinctions between light and dark. I taught Jodie how to move and interact accordingly. When she gets to hyped up I say “Go get Cotton” and off she goes.
The decision of euthanasia is very personal as others have indicated. Our circumstances are different than others so our timing will be as well. I wish you peace with Taffy and whatever your decision is.


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Our oldest is 15, he’s the one below licking our bunny.
I had not previously looked closely at that photo. That is so sweet! (Who went into the bed first? Was/Is that a regular sight at your house?)
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Our bunny passed away 8 months ago but was 12 years old, which is rare with a bunny. He was litter box trained and not afraid of anything but was also quite the snuggler. That’s an authentic picture, JoJo loved preening his buddy. I just put our bunny in JoJo’s bed one day and they both loved it! Yes, it was a regular sight at our house and when we left town in the van (no middle seats) he came with us also🌺
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Are you getting a new bunny for JoJo?

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Well Jodie and Cotton would like one😋 JoJo’s dementia is fairly advanced. He’s still a happy guy when he’s awake but he’s different. All the years of our parents having dementia have been helpful with JoJo and understanding what’s happening and what stage comes next. We’re just letting him do what he needs and we adjust ourselves around him.
Ironically, one week after our bunny died a wild one showed up in our yard and still comes, with a few friends, to visit and eat the dandelions.
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I just saw your post and would like to respond with a link that may be somewhat helpful. It's a very difficult decision when a loved pet's health declines. For one, you don't want to make that decision because you love your pet, and secondly, you want to make that decision because you love your pet. Anyway, here is a link that helps guide you in your decision.


https://journeyspet.com/pet-quality-...le-calculator/



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That’s a really good link Jackie. Mimser, I think the website in general is helpful. JoJo scored 60 but as I’ve said, I’m semi-retired and can be at home most the time for now and we have pretty extensive experience with dementia. Under the quality of life section there are other things to consider. Also the section titled “You” on the quality of life scale calculator is important since our babies are so connected to us emotionally. I snuggle with JoJo several times a day and just listen to his breathing and how he feels-physically and from a hippy dippy perspective. The more relaxed we are the more peaceful our babies can be.
Thank you Jackie!

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Many thanks, Jackie. Took the quiz & Taffy first scored 51 - as a former teacher, I didn't want to sugar-coat any aspect, but a few of the questions didn't correlate too closely with Taffy's issues, so did a re-take & am calling it 63! Long live the soon-to-be-diapered Hav!
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