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Hi,
I have two elderly labradors and I am considering getting a small dog next. My great joy has been hiking in the woods and parks with my labs, and I have been impressed with how well my friend's shih-tzu keeps up. I am drawn to the Havanese as a small dog because I have read that they are quite tough and love to swim and, I am guessing, I will enjoy their traninability and high intelligence over the shih-tzu. I have been lurking here a while and wondered how many of you enjoy outdoor explorations with your dogs.

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Hi Sky and welcome. :)

My 9 month old Havanese Bugsy loves the great outdoors. I have two standard poodles who require a lot of exercise. We go on long off leash walks twice a day. Once to the beach and once to our local park and Bugsy has absolutely no trouble (not even when he was a teeny puppy) keeping up with my big dogs. He loves to run like hell, get wet in the ocean and get really filthy in the mud. :)

I think you would love a Havanese.

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Brady also loves to be outside. He has gone on a few hikes with us. I remember one in particular with my sister in law's golder retriever. We must have hiked 4 miles on dirt trail. Brady turned and looked at us at the end like "really, we have to go now". He was about 6 months at the time. He would walk/hike for miles daily if we were up to it.
 

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We don't do a lot of hiking ourselves, but one breeder we talked to and visited while we were trying to decide if we were really crazy enough to get a dog again told us that they can hike with the big dogs, just be sure they get enough water.
 

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Don't go hiking, but they love to go on long walks around the neighborhood. They love to be outside as much as possible.
 

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Sky, if you read what I've read about aquaintances of mine on a Cdn. Havanese list, you'd know just how wonderful the Havanese is for hiking and enjoying lots of outdoor activities! Debbie Boudreau, a member here, also knows them and can tell you the same.

This couple walks their dogs almost daily for a good long walk and weekly go on hikes through woods, up mountains and can be gone half a day. Their 4 Havs follow along and absolutely love it! They look forward to it and get very excited when they know they're going on a hike again. They have run of a large yard, but the walks are what keeps these pooches healthy and good and tired. :) The Havanese can still be quite content living in an apartment and not have the daily, long walks so it is quite adaptable to any lifestyle.

I highly recommend the Havanese for what you're looking for in a pet!
 

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I wish I knew Tom when I was looking for a dog he has all the answers ..
Our first dog was a good little hiker . I used to take him up to Tahoe and hike with him and a girlfriend . He loved it - he had good stamina - the only thing was his color . He was black and he would really feel the heat ..
It is important to keep them well hydrated .
I would ask the Vet about long walks and hikes and he said no problem but try to keep it under 3 miles .
My husband would love to take him on long walks and he would do 4 miles .
Cosmo & Ahnold walk well but we do not hike as yet . Ahnold is like a little Ballet dancer - amazing grand jetes ..
 

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Thanks for all of the input-- and so positive! I am really glad to hear about Hav hiking experiences, as my love of dogs is an extension of my love of nature and the outdoors. My friends think I 've lost my mind, moving from Labs to a toy breed, LOL! :)
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Sky, if you read what I've read about aquaintances of mine on a Cdn. Havanese list, you'd know just how wonderful the Havanese is for hiking and enjoying lots of outdoor activities! Debbie Boudreau, a member here, also knows them and can tell you the same.
Hi Marj, Thanks for the input. I am curious, do have a link for the Canadian Havanese list?
The adaptability factor you allude to, is the appeal of the Havanese for me.

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Daunting!

Look for a breeding that will have good shoulder layback and a long femur with low hocks and the dog will be able to travel easily for miles and enjoy a hike. One with straight shoulders and straight or less than ideal rear leg conformation will want to be carried back home.
Whoa! I don't think I am up to that assessment. I had better find a really good breeder! Great information, if I can put it to use! Thanks!
 

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Sam has amazed me the stamina he has. Even as a young pup, he could walk our usual 45 minutes and them some. I would think he would tire out and pick him up, but he wanted no part of being held. He wanted to walk.

The only problem with walking in the woods is all the twigs and leaves he collects in his coat.:rolleyes:

Good luck in finding the perfect Havanese for you!:)
 

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Look for a breeding that will have good shoulder layback and a long femur with low hocks and the dog will be able to travel easily for miles and enjoy a hike. One with straight shoulders and straight or less than ideal rear leg conformation will want to be carried back home.
What does that mean in simple terms?
 

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It means the difference between one that can move freely and efficiently and one that cannot. An athlete versus ordinary.

Both the front and rear need to be able to move with equal efficiency. The breed standard calls for low hocks-which are generally considered to be anything 1/3 or less of the rear height. Dogs that move funky in the rear will almost always have long hocks.

The femur carries the largest muscles in the body (same with us), so a long femur carries a longer muscle which not only allows more propulsion but allows the rear foot to carry more body weight as it reaches up under the body-where the real spring comes from.

I am considered to know right much about horse conformation and it carries over into dogs. We have been breeding animals since the mid 70s and Pam and I always talk conformation.

There is no mention of femur length anywhere in the Havanese standard but there is a lot of variation in the dogs-even the ones seen in the ring.

Movement is most efficient when the stifle is at or below the level of the elbow-well proven in sporthorses (those doing the Olympic events). This is very rare in Havanese but there are some.

When it's all working together for maximum efficiency almost anyone can see the difference, although most people just look at how the front moves and not front and rear together.
 

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Tom,

Thanks so much for such a detailed explanation. :) You are just a wealth of information and I've learned so much. I really appreciate the time you (and other breeders on this board) take to educate us on the finer points of the Havanese.
 

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I know mine can hike! Even my 4.5lb maltese is known to be quite a champ! I think it is something you have to build up to also. If your dogs are used to being on the couch just like out of shape humans. They probably can't hike nearly as long. I know with winter just getting over. Dora was exhausted at the end of our 3 mile walk. Now that it is getting warmer and we have been walking more often, she doesn't get tired as easily.

The only difference is the bathing and grooming it takes afterwards. I thought I trusted Dora on a hike when she decided to run into the river. Well the rest of the hike in hocking hills region is very sandy! I spent about an hour getting all the sand out of her hair!

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Sneaky little Dora! :rolleyes: But look how magnificent they look in front of that waterfall! Who can resist a little dip in the water? :D
 

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Sneaky little Dora! :rolleyes: But look how magnificent they look in front of that waterfall! Who can resist a little dip in the water? :D
I know-- they look adorable! They remind me of a retired couple on a cross-country trip. They set the camera on "auto" or maybe asked some nice young man to take their picture. I love the contrast between their little sweet faces and the waterfall behind them!
 

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Yes you are right about the haircut . It is called a puppy cut .
Do not let them buzz your dog !!!I always keep their hair shorter in the summer as they are black and Lois shaves the belly but as I said you can never tell she does it so well ..
She designed a cut for me as we like to walk and hike and we always want to take the dog and now it is dogs and it is even more fun ..
 
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