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What's a good Software to create a website and keep it maintained with? Ours hasn't been updated in several years and all of our dogs aren't even on there yet. Short learning curve and ease of use would be a big help.

With all the lists taking so much time, it really slows up other productive work. I think there is some resistance to changing from the list format but hope that will change. Have notices been posted on all the Hav lists? I'm ready to post on the ones we're on that I'm unsubcribing and only posting here. I do have years of experience on the horse forum and I think about 3,000 posts there since the last time the previous several years of stuff was dumped (the moderators saved some of the old threads in "favorites" and "reference").

This is such a better format, as individual conversations can be carried on as long as anyone is interested. They don't get all jumbled up with every other discussion and there is no email account to have to do housekeeping on.
 

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I could not agree more Tom. I have not posted to any big lists, didnt know if I could. I dont visit them anymore so it doesnt matter. I have just told people in my local group, so if you could spread the word that would be great!

My photography website was done with a template and I can update it easily. I can give you some links, let me find it. Its flash, but I think they have html sites also. I paid about $80 for it, but its much more image intensive.
You can see it here www.melissamillerphotography.net

I have the gallery uploaded for this board. I am trying to figure out how to get it on the main page. You can have individual galleries and search by keywords. I think thats good so people can search for certain dogs/people.

You can play with it here, and soon I will have a link and hopefully images on the home page.

http://www.havaneseforum.com/photopost531/index.php
 
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Hi Tom,

I use Dreamweaver. I am still a novice at using the software, but it is very user-friendly...easy to upload and easy to update.

Tami
 

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I figured that we probably need to get Dreamweaver but was a bit reluctant because I knew that Jan went to a night class to learn it and didn't feel like I had time to do that. I was just wondering if there was some simple and easy one with templates to use and the one Melissa linked looks pretty good. But of course, we probably will want to put some videos on there of Posh and others moving so I guess we might as well get the fully functional one and learn how to use it. Any quick tips on where's the best place to buy it??
 

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Yes thats the latest version.
I use dreamweaver for light editing and the ftp part.
Here are some good template sources.

www.winkletwebdesign.com
www.simplyblu.com
www.templatemonster.com

Template monster has the most and best prices. Winklet is very good about making small changes for you, but they are all flash and Im not sure if a dog website would want flash or not? A benefit to them, is you can download the demo, upload all of your images and see how it will look before you buy it. And the instructions are easy to follow.

SimplyBlu has flash and maybe a coulple HTML sites, a little more expensive but classy

You could always put movies on your server and link them from your site, instead of imbedding them into your site.

Most of these I know from photographers and dont know how they would work for a breeder website. You might ask Cheri, she knows a lot about website and is good at them. AND she is a new member. :D
 

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Hi Melissa and all,

I personally use Dreamweaver and love it, but it can have a bit of a steep learning curve. It has grown more user friendly over the years and version 8 is more intuitive than ever (translate that to you really can play around with it without necessarily needing to take courses, read the manual, etc.)

But (and this is a really important point to make) if you want a professional looking website you will learn that it really begins with professional looking graphics. Online viewers typically spend less than 60 sec. viewing your page. Your graphics should be professional and eye catching without being gaudy.

I use another Macromedia product - Fireworks - for graphics. I can do total page design within that product. There is even a tool which will slice and dice the image into the required componants to build a table and will output the html for you. Within Fireworks you can add links, image descriptions, create animated gifs or javascipt rollovers, pop ups, etc.

Just remember, when you're new at this, just because you "can" do something in html doesn't mean that you "should". Too many websites already online with images/music/overly long flash intros/movies that download slowly and cause people to click away from your website. And then what have we accomplished? Those can be OK for private demonstrations you may want to show select groups of people, but in general the public will not be so impressed :p

And if you don't want to deal with all of this, templates can be a great substitute to achieve a professional looking website too. The downside is that your website is not "custom" and you could run across a duplicate of yours, but most people will never know that. You will still need software/freeware to upload your website in most cases.
 
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I know I like simple sites. While I would love to read all the information that people publish...I just don't have the time. I want quick answers and lots of photos!! The music and some of the other 'fancier' features can be a bit distracting. The changing photos are kind of cool though...what are those called? (When there's one image that keeps changing without you clicking on anything.)

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The ideal solution is a simple site that allows those who want to go into deeper detail to do so. Some people read every word on my website (and know the minute something is changed...grin). It always surprises me. Others just want the basics.

If you can create a path that is easy to navigate where those who want detailed info on a certain subject within your website can easily find it, then you have done a good job in your design. For many breeders, we get so many calls and e-mails that it is helpful to have full info online so we can refer folks there.

The photo shows you are talking about can be done as animated gifs, javascripts or in flash animation. They can be cool if the viewer's brower is compatible and their security settings allow them to see what you have created.
 
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Easy to navigate paths are a nice feature! That's a great way to reach those who want quick, simple information and others who enjoy digging.

Melissa, I love your website. While it might not work for a breeders site :) , it is perfect for a photographer. Simple and very classy!! Is it easy to update?
 

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My website is very easy to update, However I have the same problem that Cheri mentioned. There are other photogs near me who have the same one.

So I shelled out some big bucks for a guy to do a custom flash site. Well its been months, and after I demanded a refund...he promised the end of August.
SO we have a couple more weeks to see. Since he is sitting on a 2k deposit, you would think he wouldnt mess around.
My website is the biggest factor in people calling and booking, its my biggest marketing tool, so it makes since to put money in that area.

Now I dont dreamweaver at all, Im impressed if you can make sites in there. I can use the ftp and I can open documents and change code, but thats as far as I go!
 
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I just downloaded the trial version of Dreamweaver 8. I love it...I will definitely be purchasing this software. It is a huge improvement on the earlier edition!!

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I do have the Macromedia Dreamweaver Suite which includes Fireworks and Flash. One great thing about going to class was that I received a student discount when I bought the software. I also bought the Adobe Photoshop CS. I really like them. I did not like my teacher. The software was more than half off the regular price. I just need the time to get back to it. I think Tami may help me....<g>. Anyway, it is very user friendly. It also allows you to insert videos very easily.
I use the Lynda series of books to learn it, but if you go to Barnes and Noble you can browse through what they have and get an idea of Dreamweaver before you even purchase it.
Jan
 
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You can download the trial version for free also...some of the features aren't enabled, but it will give you an idea of how the software looks and feels prior to purchasing it.

How much did your class cost Jan? Half-price software is a nice bonus!!

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video on websites

I have a video on my website. I had to use the live help that comes with CoffeeCup to do it and they're finally the ones that put it on my site. I guess I need to use a better FTP because it needed to go up to the site using the whole folder and my FTP, a free one but simple to use, doesn't do folders. If anyone wants to look, you could let me know if the loading time is long or short please.
jashavanese.com
 

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Since this thread has been here for years, I'm sure you are already done with your website. But I still would like to share the application 37 AJAX and CSS Tab-based interfaces which became one of the most interesting techniques for web developers. All of them are easy to understand and customize as your own tabs. Check out the tutorials which would help you create your own Ajax or CSS Tab-based interfaces.

ajax tab container
 
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