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I am new to the Havanese Forum and glad to be here. In doing some Havanese research online, I came across this great forum.

A little about me ... I have four female dogs (two Havanese, a Toy Fox Terrier, and an American Eskimo) and three cats. I am excited to say that in a couple of weeks I believe we will be bringing home our newest family member, a beautiful female Havanese puppy! My husband and I live in sunny Florida and, to spoil our 4-legged kids rotten, we both work full-time.

I am hoping to join our local Havanese Club here in Florida and also the Havanese Club of America. Does anyone know how to go about that?

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Hi Cathy - I am Catherine - I live in California...

I am not aware of how to do that...I have my first havanese and he is 13 weeks tomorrow! what a cutie...

You seem to have had a lot of experience with the breed. Ollie is 3 lbs at 13 weeks - any idea how big he might get???

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Hi Catherine -

I am not sure how big Ollie might get ... I am trying to remember how much my 4 year old, Zoe, weighed when we brought her home (she was 10 weeks old), but cannot remember. Today she runs between 10 1/2 to 12 pounds. It varies depending on how much running around the backyard she does, whether she is fully clipped or in a full coat, or if she has just been a couch potato (or if I spoil her with a little extra food)! Our little Emma, a 1 1/2 year old Hav, weighs just a little bit more than Zoe. If you look at the two of them together, Emma looks smaller but she is solid!

I just found out that the puppy I mentioned earlier that I thought we would be bringing home has been sold to someone else. I am so disappointed! I love my Hav's so much and was so excited for them to have a new friend. Back on the hunt!!

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Hi! I would like to join the Tropical Havanese Club here in Florida and the Havanese Club of America. I believe you have to have 2 sponsors to join each club but I'm not sure how to go about getting sponsors. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
 

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Hi Cathy!
Someone may have a better suggestion, but here is what I would do.
If you dont know anyone it can be hard. I find the havanese community to be pretty welcoming. I would contact some of the members, maybe through the website. Say you would like to be a member. Maybe try to plan a play date or find out a function you can go to and meet club members. If you make an effort, and get to know some members, Im sure you can get in.

I think the 2 member sponsor is to keep out people who are not trying to better the breed. Otherwise any puppy farm person could get in, and use the club name to promote their kennel.

So meet some members, and if they see you have good intentions, Im sure you can get in. I would tackle the local club first. Then you can meet people there and get in with HCA if thats what you desire.

Im going to Nationals next week. If I meet anybody in the Tropical Havanese Club, I will get more info for you. Im sure Im bound to find someone!

My two best friends live in Florida now, so I will be there more and more.

Good Luck! Its nice to see people who want to be invloved.

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Melissa -

Thank you so much for the information! I met a gentleman this weekend, who I have been emailing back and forth regarding a show puppy. He is a member of both the local club, Tropical, and the HCA, and is not only going to sponsor me, but is going to mentor me with showing. I am excited. We bring our newest member home tomorrow and I can't wait to post a picture of her for everyone to see!
 

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Hi to all,

I am a brand new member to this forum...just became a Hav owner 3 weeks ago - an 18 mo old rescue from southern IN, who is now happily getting to know his new world in St. Paul, MN! We renamed our little fella, Barney, and he is beginning to grow some soft-as-velvet hair, after being shaved because of severe matting. He is a "soft" dog...very cautious and reluctant to approach practically anyone at this point. He has velcroed himself to me most of the time (I feed him, take him potty and play with him) and my hubby is trying to win him over as well. He is "sort" housetrained...but loves to use the living room whenever we aren't looking. He doesn't like his crate at all, but quietly allows himself to be placed inside for sleep at night. Our 5 local grandkids all want him to play and respond immediately to their requests to love him...and he has shown no aggression when they pick him up and cuddle for a few minutes...but will not go to them by himself. His "in-house" training will begin soon (had to get through Thanksgiving prep first) because he doesn't come, sit, or do anything much and runs away from even me when I give the "come" or "sit" demand. We aren't used to small dogs, having had 2 goldens prior to Barney...but I have fallen head over heels in love with him and even though the rescue lady has offered me the chance to return him if it doesn't work out...could never even think of doing that at this point!!!! Any thoughts, suggestions etc on behavior that is not the typical havanese would be most appreciated...;)
 

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cONGRATULATIONS ON BARNEY!! I am sure that once he gets used to his new "forever" home & calms down, he will come to you with no problem. They seem to be such a happy breed & want to please so maybe it is just going to take him a little time to adjust. God know what he went thru before coming to you!! Give him a hug from us Havanes lovers!!
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hi Barneys mom, welcome to the forum! Barney will be one of the family in no time. I have a 10 month old male, Cooper and he is such a delight. He loves me and gives me kisses but he adores my husband and insists on spending quality time on his lap. I too had a golden before Cooper, and the breeds are different. I find that the Havanese that I have been around are a little bit more cautious in getting to know someone than goldens generally are, but they are certainly lovers and not normally aggressive at all. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we all want to see a picture of Barney! I'm working on that myself. Welcome again and have fun with Barney!
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Barney's Mom, Thanks for giving Barney a new lease on life. When your grandkids come over have them completely ignore Barney to start with and sit on the floor. Only when Barney approaches them should they interact with Barney. Make sure they know not to reach down after him but offer their hand palm up and coming at Barney from below his head level instead of from above or maybe a nonagressive light pat or scratch from the side. It's important for them to IMMEDIATELY withdraw their attention if Barney pulls away. Havanese are extremely smart so I have no doubt that he will come around after a while with patience. He will probably always be soft some but these end up being the most loyal ones and the ones who want to please you the most.
 

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To address the topic earlier in this thread about joining the HCA. If you notice the total membership in the HCA you will see that it's really a fairly small number compared to the total number of Havanese in this country. It's not at all that it's an elitist or snobbish association but new members are not allowed membership just because they are nice people with good intentions. There was a time when any warm body with the entry fee was greeted with open arms. This did lead to a few problems later on and it's very hard to get someone out once they are in. There are some people who are members who do more harm than they do good or they use their membership to help promote their agendas. It's not a social club and it does not hide any proprietary information. Anything that the HCA has is accessable by anyone not a member with the exception of the right to vote.

There are a lot of people who have one or several Havanese and want to become members but the important thing is what they have to offer the good of the breed or the future of the breed. At the meeting at the National this year there was one nice lady who was quite put out because her membership had been turned down. She came to plead her case and said that if the HCA provided her with the information that she needed to know that she would be glad to learn it and that she was a really okay person and would be willing to help with whatever she was asked to do. It was pretty obvious that she really was an okay person but she had no experience to put on her application.

Now at first it seems unreasonable that this person would be turned down but consider the influx of enough people without their own experience in breeding dogs or other animals to swing a vote one way or the other. Most people new to the breed and even dogs in general before Havanese are mentored by the breeders of their dogs. This is the way it should be, to start with, until this new person has been involved long enough and has enough experience of their own that can they stand back and form their own opinions of the big picture. This breed has grown so big, so fast that now there are new layers of new people being mentored by breeders who were themselves new just two or three years ago. We are breeders and have hundreds of puppy owners. If we had all our puppy owners become members of the HCA we could do anything that we want with the breed. This is not the way it should be.

Now let's take another hypothetical situation and say that Pat Trotter decided that she wanted to become a member of the HCA. I dont' think there would be many (I'm sure there would be some) members who would not say, without a doubt, that she would be an asset.

This could turn into a book but I hope you get the idea. Don't get discouraged if you are new to dogs and get turned down if you submit an application for membership to the HCA. In the meantime join you local club or clubs and become involved with them.
 
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