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New pup arriving soon. A few litter box questions…

1) How much litter to use? I bought a litter box with sides for the expen. I have read on here about people moving the litter box where the pup is playing, but I’m not sure how people are doing that since the litterboxes are so heavy once the litter is added. How thick of a litter layer is necessary in a box with sides (no grate)?
In an open litter box, People usually use an inch and a half or more. In one with a grate, you are limited to what will fit. I know some people move them around... For me, having more of them in different places was FAR preferable!

2) I can’t seem to add pics for some reason, but I might also get a litterbox without sides for the living room and found this huge one. (40x28) Maybe it’s too big, I don’t know. Do you think there’s enough room for litter under the grate? https://www.amazon.com/AQUST-Toilet-Protect-Training-AMT-1100/dp/B09R4JYFNV/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=FLH4TR0ILUVL&keywords=pet+time+grand+dog+toilet&qid=1654614711&sprefix=oet+time+,aps,151&sr=8-7&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.08f69ac3-fd3d-4b88-bca2-8997e41410bb
You can't know for sure until you have it in hand. The ones I use are also about 2" tall, maybe a bit less. So this SEEMS to be adequate. I'd be interested to know how you like it. If you like it, I might buy one for future litters!

3) Training help- Pup has no experience with litter from breeder, so I know it might not work- but any tips on how to get pup to use it? I set up the small expen like Karen suggested with just a step between bed and litter tray. I was thinking of placing a pee pad on top of the litter at first with a few pieces of litter on the pad and then slowly adding more until I can remove the pad?
Easy peasy switching little puppies from pads to pellets. Don't bother with pellets underneath the pad. Start with just a pad in the litter box. Use pads with attractant in them (more do than don't) Once the puppy is reliably going on the pad in the litter box, spread a few pellets on the pad so they start to get used to the smell of the pellets. Then a few more. Then a thin layer on top of the pad. By the time the puppy is using that, you can just remove the pad entirely. Most puppies switch over pretty seamlessly in a few days.
 
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Karen, I just want to say thank you. Your presence on this board and generosity with your knowledge is honestly SO appreciated. You are a godsend! And I will def post my experience if I buy that larger tray!
Awww, thanks!
 

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Great to know thanks! This is exactly what we are hoping for… We’d like our pup to mainly use the outdoor potty as an adult but want to keep the option of the litter just in case (like during CA wildfires when the air is terrible outside). I still can’t quite figure out if I should be training the pup solely to use the litter for now and then introduce outside pottying at a later date or if I should be combining the two now (seems like it would confuse him).
Just a word of warning... You need to DILIGENTLY encourage the use of the litter box after they have discovered the "joys of the outdoor potty", or you will lose it. And once lost, you will never get it back. I don't know of a SINGLE adult dog who has been successfully retrained to use a litter box once they have firmly refused it.

You won't "confuse" a puppy" by working on both, but you will confuse and frustrate yourself. And it's not necessary. If you think it is, you are already confused. ;) What you are training your puppy to do is to NOT potty in the places you DON'T want him to go. Which is anyplace but the "approved"places... (litter boxes, with I train with TREMENDOUS diligence) and outdoors. (which I let happen naturally, but praise when it occurs) Just going outside become reward enough in itself, so you don't need to do more than that. The point of potty training is NOT to teach the puppy "where to go". It's to teach the puppy "where NOT to go"!
 

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There are not hard and fast rules for any of this sort of thing. A lot of it you have to figure out what works for you and the dog as you go.
I agree. Thats what I meant by saying you will confuse yourself! Tom said it more succinctly!
 

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It sounds like you found a system that works for you! It may not be an issue since your potty tray is outside, but I looked at the fake grass trays because I thought they were kind of cute and a lot of members said they hold the smell of pee after a while, although you mentioned it hasn’t been an issue for you. Maybe because it drains and is combined with litter? I set up a makeshift litter box for my basement (my other boxes came with grates to contain the litter) and I wanted to mention that I tried a few different household items that worked well to contain litter - in case at some point you need a new “grate” and don’t want to buy a whole new litter box or grass mat. The one I liked best was rubber/silicone type gridded sink/tub liner. It kept the litter in place and allowed the right amount of drainage and was easy to clean.
I notice that she says she is using it out on a balcony. Maybe that, and the fact that her Dog is still a puppy is helping with the smell. We have put fake grass out on our Deck for Kodi in the winter, because at his age, he has trouble with the icey steps. (Hopefully, with his new ramp, we won’t have to anymore!!!) Even though I REGULARLY cleaned it with Parvosol, by spring it smelled SO bad, we had to throw it out… and Dave had to take it to the dump in the open back of the pick-up truck!!!

We have tried fake grass litter boxes and tried every imaginable cleaning product on them without success in the house. Maybe my nose is more sensitive than others, but it sure wasn’t a product I could live with!!!
 
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