This puppy is a sable. He looks like he will probably be a gold sable, but that will be easier to tell when he is a bit older. But there is no doubt that he is sable.
Ah, yes, Havanese color genetics are very complicated, because there are MANY “modifier” genes, and we do not know the markers for them all yet, nor do we fully understand how they influence base color genes!I took it to mean a bit hard to follow and figure out
The problem is, the breeder has to put something on the registration for a color, at a time when they really have NO idea what the puppy will look like as an adult. And AKC doesn’t help, because the color choices they even allow you to CHOOSE don’t line up with color genetics. So breeders have to make the best guess and the best choice they can at 8-12 weeks, when they need to register the puppy.What an itty bitty cute puppy. I love his color
When you said gold I pictured it so differently. To me (I’m new at Havanese) his color looks so unique like a really pretty smokey gray
Havanese always look so happy!
I think it would be REALLY hard to tell just by looking if a sable had the silver gene. I I don't believe there is currently a DNA test for silver for Havanese. There is for one breeds, but unfortunately, these colors aren't on the same locus for all dog breeds. So they have to hunt it down over again for some breeds. That seems to be the case for ours! My GUESS is that dogs like Perry (and like Pixel, who also shows some "sometimes" silvering, and we know she has silver behind her in her family and she has a visible silver sister) inherited a single copy of the silver gene.His color is constantly changing! I’m pretty sure he has the silvering gene (I think someone told me there’s a gene for that but I’ll defer to @krandall) Right now it’s more grey, though more blond on his underside, but other times it’s much more of a flaxen/light gold color. His changes were most striking in his first year, which is often true of sables (a few more pics of that below, before his first haircut when the dark tips came off), but even 10 years later, he keeps us guessing!
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Genetically, your girl is a black and tan. (POSSIBLY with a single copy of the silver gene)
I don’t think any genetic testing for color was done. I met both the parents, and breeder stated dad was a clear red. She may have been guessing herself. Maggie as a baby was Black and Tan with white markings. She lost the tan within the first year. View attachment 178887
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Yes, that is typical. Very few B&T’s stay “tan”. Most fade to a creamy white. And just like any other base color, they can have white markings! She is a cutie!I don’t think any genetic testing for color was done. I met both the parents, and breeder stated dad was a clear red. She may have been guessing herself. Maggie as a baby was Black and Tan with white markings. She lost the tan within the first year. View attachment 178887
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Yes, genetically, she is a black and tan with white markings. …and you are lucky that she has maintained beautiful rich color in her tan areas!!! 💕. and yeas, she could certainly carry a single copy of the silver gene. We can’t test for that so we’re just guessing on that one!Kiki’s breeder categorized her as a black dog with tan points on the AKC paperwork. There was also an option for Black and Tan, and she has just the tiniest bit of white. I wondered if it should have been Black and Tan with white markings, but I guess it doesn’t really matter. She has silvered a little, and she has that rusty mustache. Her black hair can appear to have a dark auburn tint in certain light.
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Recent photos- front/back
The silvering is in her tail, down her back legs, on her chest, and now showing up here and there on her back. Time will tell if it continues to spread.