..and look at this pigment!! Not even all black toes, but the nose was in earlier than any red puppy we've ever seen.
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Look at this color???!!!
We've never had, nor seen one like this. This is from Ember's first litter. Ember is a Really dark Red like an Irish Setter.
This is probably some shade of Red???
We have no Chocolate genes in our lines.
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This is probably some shade of Red???
We have no Chocolate genes in our lines.
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Dapper is also a Grandson of our Posh. A result of one of our breedings out to bring in new blood, but keeping Posh strong in it. Posh is Karen's Kodi's Sire, as well as strong in the pedigree of many high ranking performance dogs.
We've still been too busy to update our website, which was built with software that is no longer supported, so I can't edit anything, much less add pages.
Here's a picture of Ember. I think this was taken when she was about a year. Now past two years old, the red is much deeper and darker.
Pam had a hunch that you need to breed Black to Red to keep strong pigment. I believe she was right. You can select red with good pigment, but if you keep breeding red to red without bringing the black in, pigment will suffer. Dapper is Black, but he carries a little "e".
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We've still been too busy to update our website, which was built with software that is no longer supported, so I can't edit anything, much less add pages.
Here's a picture of Ember. I think this was taken when she was about a year. Now past two years old, the red is much deeper and darker.
Pam had a hunch that you need to breed Black to Red to keep strong pigment. I believe she was right. You can select red with good pigment, but if you keep breeding red to red without bringing the black in, pigment will suffer. Dapper is Black, but he carries a little "e".
Wow! We know it’s NOT chocolate, so it has to be either sable or clear red, but boy, it looks almost exactly the same color as Ping at this point! It will be really interesting to see how it develops!!!
They are all very beautiful! 
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