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Oliver has Hemangiosarcoma...

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Hi all, my beloved Oliver was 100% healthy and happy three days ago, then he had a strange kind of syncope event. He went all stiff and cramped up and his eyes were flickering. It only lasted about 30 seconds, but he was very confused after and couldn't walk without falling over. I took him to the vet the next morning and they did x-rays and bloodwork and he was anemic and had low platelets (31k). They did a transfusion and his RBC's are at 40%, but his platelet count has only gone from 31k to 36k since Saturday. He has a mass on his spleen which had fluid, but has since absorbed back in his body. I have to make a decision to go with a risky surgery, which he may not survive, and the subsequent chemo and recovery, to get maybe 4-5 months more, or bring him home today and give him a loving sendoff. I'm torn apart making this decision. I can't risk losing him in surgery, but even if he made it I don't want to put him through all that. Without the surgery his tumor could rupture at any time, so I would have to say goodbye in the next few days to not risk that.
Has anyone had this situation with their dog? I'm just beyond heartbroken. He's everything to me. Dog Dog breed Carnivore Companion dog Working animal
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I am so sorry to hear about Oliver. These decisions are very difficult to make. I lost Boo to acute pancreatitis on 3/17/23. Although he was 20.4 years old and lived a long life, I opted to hospitalize and give maximum treatment. His symptoms appeared over night. At the tme, I brought him to the hospital my vet gave a 50-50 chance of recovery with a five day hospitalization, due to his advanced age. They did do extensive workup and supportive care. However, he only lasted one night.

Looking back, I dont think I would have done anything differently, as a 50-50 chance was enough to give me hope of even another six months or year with him. Further, he had totally recovered from a hospitalization for a stroke at age 19. So, I thought that he could fight the pancreatitis.

In your case, with very risky surgery, it would be a more difficult decision to make. Have you considered home hospice? if you decide surgery and chemo are not a good option. I have met several people, who have opted for that route, when there is cancer. It involves providing supportive care in the home with the assistance of a veterinarian and veterinary technician.
I think I'll be providing home hospice myself. Without surgery he'll be vulnerable to sudden rupture and bleeding, so I can't drag it out just for my own sake. They're going to send me home with the Chinese supplement to help with that, and some pain meds. I just want to give him lots of treats and have his other human friends with him at the end.
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Thinking of you and Oliver during this difficult time.
Thank you 🧡
Hemangio is quite common, and for a long time it was thought to be somehow related to large breed dogs. Then it started to be seen more and more common in smaller breed dogs as well. Now there has been found a high percentage of Hemangio tumors have Bartonella bacteria (a tickborn disease) in them, even when there is no evidence of Bartonella in the dog’s blood.

The theory now is that the disease was seen more in large dogs first, because they are exposed to ticks more than small house dogs” are. Now that ticks are SO bad in many places, even little dogs are getting exposed to infected ticks, and more cases of Hemangio are showing up in smal dogs too.

An 8 year old Havanese belonging to a Veterinarian/breeder friend of mine died of Hemangiosarcoma last summer here in the Boston area. 😢

I read about that connection also. Makes me wonder if he was tested for Bartonella, and treated, would that have prevented the tumor?
I’m so so sorry to hear about sweet Oliver, but it sounds like you’re being very thoughtful about how to keep his best interests at heart, even though of course this isn’t a decision any one ever wants to make . Sending positive thoughts to you in this very difficult time. 💔
Thank you for the kind words. 🧡
I am so sorry to hear that Oliver has Hermangiosarcoma. We lost our Havanese, Rex, to this awful disease last year. He was not yet 7 years old. By the time we had a diagnosis it was too late to help him. Survival times even with aggressive treatments aren’t very good. Sending hugs and crying anew for my Rex and all the other dogs that are afflicted with this disease.
Your Rex was even younger than Oliver. It's such a gut punch to go from healthy and happy, to making arrangements to euthanize my beautiful little friend in less than a week. My life is turned upside down. Every time I start typing the tears are streaming down my face. I'm sorry you're also familiar with this heartache.:cry:
I am sorry to hear. Oliver’s situation sounds like the typical presentation of hemangiosarcoma -a real killer -which can be common in golden retrievers and others but not havis.

My much loved, so special Sadie developed hemangiosarcoma when she was 10 years old. It presented as a tumor in her abdomen which her veterinarian found at her annual physical. She wasn’t sick at all when the tumor was found. This is a very unusual place for this cancer and we may have been fortunate to have it found prior to a bleed out.

We had the tumor removed and she did chemo for about 2 months. I hesitated to do chemo but it was not difficult for her, as the oncologist told us would be the case. Dogs tolerate chemo much better than people. The doctor also had us give her a daily dose of two herbal supplements.

She seemed fine and had a full quality of life but the tumor recurred. We had it removed again, she resumed chemo. Again, she was fine but the cancer returned .etc!!

Sadie had an extra 2 years before she had that final rupture of her blood vessels which hemangiosarcoma causes. Her life in those 2 years was normal aside from many, many visits to the vet for treatment. We had the vet end her life to avoid the inevitable which I feared could be painful and frightening for her.

Not a day goes by that I don’t miss her and feel the anguish of this ordeal. We have 2 havis who we love dearly. They are now 3 years old but the loss of Sadie remains.

I hope this helps in your decision. Again, Sadie’s cancer presented in an atypical way and may have enabled us to have the two extra years with her where she was her usual self. Each case of hemangiosarcoma is probably unique. Whatever you decide to do, there is no right or best answer.
I don't have the option of surgery because his platelets are so low. I have his goodbye scheduled for tomorrow, so today I had the vet run his CBC one last time to see if his platelets had risen. They actually dropped from 35k to 29k, so that's it. After diagnosis I got less than a week. He's the sweetest, most gentle little soul in the world and I'm gonna lose him tomorrow. 😢 Dog Eye Dog breed Carnivore Plant
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Your love of Oliver is so obvious. I had to make the decision to euthanize my beloved Dusty on March 31. I still find myself going to the “what ifs” but it is a hurtful and not at all helpful place to be. You’re making the most loving and caring decision for Oliver by providing the home hospice and making his last days be full of comfort, warmth and love.
Thank you for those kind words. 🧡
I am so very sorry for you. From his photos, he seems to be an exceptionally cute and communicative little guy. This is such a dreadful cancer; it comes on so suddenly and viciously. I think there has not been much progress in treatment in over 30 years. Yours is a painful decision that will spare him pain. I hope you will be able to hold him and let him feel secure and loved until the end.
The diagnosis was a shock for sure. He was my first Havanese, but I would get another of this beautiful breed in a heartbeat. It's just going to be a while before I'm ready. I'm not sure what to expect tomorrow, but he will know he was loved when he closes his eyes. Thank you for reaching out. 🧡
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Wishing you strength and peace to get through tomorrow and the days ahead. ❤
Thank you so much. 🧡
To everyone who responded to my post, Oliver died at noon today. I cradled his little munchkin face and told him how much I loved him and how sorry I was that I couldn't save him. I appreciate all the kindness and love from everyone. Thank you all so much. 🧡 🧡🧡
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Your collage of Oliver is beautiful.
Thank you. With a face like that it wasn't hard to get good shots. 🐶
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Im so very sorry, my heart is breaking for you. He has the same sweet eyes as our precious Chloe who is 14 1/2 and declining. I hope
This forum has helped you find support and peace that you did the best possible for your sweet Oliver.
Havanese are the best little love bug snugglers and Im grateful for every day we have left with her.
The support has been amazing and very comforting. I used to tell Oliver I loved him about a hundred times a day. Now I'm saying it to his pictures. :( I guess the deeper the love, the deeper the loss, but I wouldn't have had it any other way. Treasure the time you have with your Chloe. 🧡
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I am so sorry for your loss. It so hard to lose a beloved member of the family, we love them so much that losing them is heartbreaking. Your posts show how much you loved and cared for Oliver, you did all you could for him.…may your memories of him be a blessing to you.
Thank you so much. It's been really difficult, but the support I've gotten here has been wonderful. 🧡
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