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No, not my baby!

A friend of hubby's has a toy poodle, he is super cute, but the guy can't take care of him.. they upped his hours at work, and he's gone for like 10-11hrs a day. The puppy is home alone wayy to much.

I would like to see him go to a good home, not just someone who thinks they want a dog.

He doesn't have any papers, but his parents do.

He wanted us to take him, and we are going to puppysit next week a few days for him.. but I don't want another dog full time. One is enough for us right now.. not to mention, when I get another one, it will more than likely be a hav.

Any idea on how to find a good home for him? Should I just go through the questions I would want to know? Maybe make them sign something stating that they will have him neutered?
 

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Jodi,
First off, I think this person should check their contract with their breeder, as that breeder could have first right of refusal. However, it doesn't sound like the dog came from a "reputable" breeder if the parents have papers but the puppy doesn't. How old is this puppy? You might also consider having the puppy neutered before placing him.

Kathy
 

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No, he didn't come from a reputable breeder... and the breeder really took dh's buddy for a ride.

He just turned 5mo (or will be this week, can't remember for sure, he's a little younger than Princess)

I thought about having him take him to get neutered, but he isn't home enough to care for him.... so we thought it might be best for him to go to his new home first, and then get it done.

I didn't know if we could make up some kind of contract, saying that he will be neutered within like 2mo or so, and also that he has the option of taking him back if the person chooses he no longer wants him. Just not sure how that would work, since he isn't selling him.. just giving him away.

I am going to take him to get chipped before he leaves, that way if he turns up somewhere, we will be contacted.
 

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Don't give him away, charge something. When people get an animal for free they tend to think they are more disposable then if they had to pay for it. I work in rescue and we charge for rescue dogs. Being that he is 5 months old, he could be neutered now without a lot of hassle. Is it possible to fix him while he is with you maybe?
 

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I never thought of that. He actually paid $ for the dog. He never would tell me, after I gave him an earfull about paying those people for the dog. Hubby said he paid $200 for him.. that was before shots, etc.

I probably could take him, but not sure how he would react for me after getting it done.

I've never had a dog neutered (we've only had females, and 1 male that wasn't fixed).. what would I need to expect from him? Would he be worse for me than his owner?

He is pretty used to me, he comes over once a week now to play- while his 'daddy' and my hubby go play soccer. I normally take him to his vet appointments to get his shots/check-ups when Princess goes, because the guy works day shift, and it's hard for him to get off.
 

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Hey Jodi. Yes Kathy's first choice was right to check with the breeder but since it wasn't up and up you cannot do that. Next, I would go to the AKC website and look up toy poodles. Select the breed in the breed finder. Then the pull down list should list a rescue. Rescue will take him and I believe most will neuter too. They will really find him a great home.

Just so your friend keeps it in the back of his mind that if he ever goes to get a dog from a ligit breeder, they always question if you gave up a dog and why. I am not sure how much investigating they do (because one could lie on a contract) but giving up a dog may go against you.

You may also want to talk to your vet if you have a good relationship. Sometimes vets know of a person who just had to put their dog asleep and our looking for someone new to love. They may even post a flyer at their office for people to inquiry.

Good luck. You have a good heart.:D
 

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I also second rescue <BG>. With Havanese Rescue, all dogs that are placed are spayed/neutered. Also they will look for people who are familar with the breed. Not just the person that would love a havanese for example- we look for families that are the right match for the breed and that particular dog (the dog is probably going to need to be potty trained if he is gone 10 hours a day, etc). It is easy to fall in love with a dog but many questions should be asked by the person and by the advocate of the dog first.

Good luck,
Amanda

Here is the rescue page for poodle club of america
http://www.poodleclubofamerica.org/usamap.htm
 

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I didn't even think of the rescue, I guess I always just associate that with abandoned dogs.

Cocoa is already potty trained.

The guy used to only work 8hr shifts, but they laid off people at his plant, and made everyone else start working overtime to make up for it. It is mandatory that they work at least 3 days of overtime, and he normally ends up with 4 days.
Since he's not married, or have a serious relationship going on.. Cocoa is pretty much just at home by himself, and it's not fair to him.

Rita, Thanks for mentioning that. Hopefully if he ever decides to get another dog, he will have someone else around to help out with the dog... and the people he gets it from will understand that he is ultimately putting the dogs needs before his at this point. I would be more disappointed if he tried to keep the dog at this point, and leave it locked in a small room the majority of the day while he is at work.
 

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I think it is time you friend surrendered the dog before it starts to have abandonement issues . Thank goodness you are there for him and his dog . This little fellow deserves a loving home .
I agree the Vet and Rescue are a good alternative . The only problem I see with Rescue is that it goes into another home and then the dog is put up for adoption again . It gets traumatic for the dog
I agree you must ask something for the dog people do not value something they get for free . The ideal solution is what you have teenatively agreed to is to take the dog in to live with you ..You know him and he has a bond with you . I would not worry so much about the neutering . You have a month or two before it becomes a big issue ..
In your picture it looks like you have small children . Is it possible you could take the dog to school for show and tell or have your children ask at school if anyone would like a dog . Just chat him up with friends and acquaintances He sounds like a sweet little guy who derserves some time and attention .. Children are the best to chat these little fellows up and find good homes for them . I got my Cocker spaniel when I was 10 years old through a friend at school . Same story - 5 months old and the family did not want him anymore anymore . He was the best dog - we loved him to pieces and he lived to be 15 years old
Ask you friends also -
I was able to place a wonderful golden retreiver in a home just by asking a freind who mentioned him to a friend Bingo he found a wonderful Mom and Dad and little boy to love ..
The fact that you are willig to foster the dog for a while is prefect he is with someone who knows him and is giving him time and affection .. You know his strength and weaknesses and you can help the adoptive family adjust ..
The fact you take him to the vet is a big plus ..
Take care . You are his Guardian Angel . Do not give up on this little guy ..
SOmeone wll come along . You just need to get the word out ..
 

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Me Again ..
I forgot one more thing ..Just A thought I do not know if you take your dog or the little poodle to a groomer but if you do that is also a great source to find a home for a dog .
I use the same groomer all the time - Not Petco or Petsmart for us though . Look for a Master Groomer .. Make sure the dogs are kept in a crate while they wait their turn and that they are never anchored or never tied .
You be suprised at what some of them do ..
I have literally just walked out and not allowed them to touch my dog .. Now we go to the same one all the time - if she annot accomdate me I wait until she can . Usually you build up a rapport and then you are in ..
I have gone to the same groomer for years - also referred by a friend .. She is wonderful and part of our family .. Auntie Lois we call her . Anyway they know when clients lose a pet either to illness or due to accidents . Some people would like a replacement dog but they do not want to take on a 8 week puppy but maybe they would love someone 5 months who is potty trained and had his basic shots ..
Mention the little guy to your groomer that is if you have a regular one .
I know most of you are very adept at grooming your own dogs and they look fantastic .
ME - I need a little help . I would never take on those bangs on my own
 

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We have a groomer, I like my dog too much ;)

Thanks, I'll give her a call tomorrow and ask her. Our vet is gone for the week on vacation, but if he still has Cocoa when the vet gets back, I'll let him know.

Thanks for the ideas everyone.. I really go back and forth with just keeping Cocoa, but we really can't handle another dog right now. We are moving during this year, and we will be traveling back and forth a lot right now to get a building built, looking for a house, etc.
 

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Some great suggestions made here. I also agree there should be a price for taking this pup... same reasons as those already mentioned.

It is so much better for this sweetie to find a home where he'll have company and attention. It isn't right to keep a dog cooped up in a crate or one room all day long, every day. So sad.

We just got Ricky neutered and you'd never know it. From what I've been told, there is little change once the surgery happens. Ricky is 6 mths. now so I'm not sure if it makes a difference doing that when the up is 1 yr. old or more...

Good luck, Jodi! If you lived in my area, I'm sure I could help find Cocoa a nice home. :)
 

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We might have found a home for him with an elderly lady my vet told me about. Her dog passed away a few weeks ago, and now she visits the puppy class my vet teaches.

She is going to talk to her, and bring up Cocoa to her, and the situation.

For the time being, he's visiting us. He goes home tomorrow (his "daddy" is off), and will come back again on Monday.
 

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Oh Jodi. That is good news. I hope it works out. You are such a good fill in Mommy! You really do have a big heart.
 

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That sounds like it might be the perfect solution . An elderly lady probably will not be conflicted with working double shifts and having work realted issues . It must be hard for him to give up his little guy but he is doing the right thing . God bless him for that ..
Hope fully this elderly lady is not too elderly and does not have to busy a schedule and she will be home for him to give him lots of attention ,security and cuddles .. There will be a period of adjustment ..
 

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Thanks, the vet just called and said the woman wants to meet Cocoa, but doesn't think she can handle taking on another puppy right now, after loosing her beloved pet. (Although, I think the wanting to meet him part is a dead ringer for he's going home with her. :D )

She is in her late 60's from what the vet said, and involved in a lot of community stuff, and took her dog everywhere with her.

So it sounds like the perfect situation, as Cocoa is used to going places with us, and he is pretty well behaved, although he's a bit hyper~ I really think it's from being so much time enclosed by himself.

We're hoping we will get visiting rights, we'll miss him, and his daddy is pretty upset about letting him go, even though we all know it's for the best.
 

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Jodi,
Sounds like it might be a great match! It is so hard (at least for me!) to meet a pup and then pass on taking him home with you.

I would also agree the dog would probably calm down when having company more.

Good luck & keep us informed,
Amanda
 

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I agree once she meets him and see him in person maybe she will change her mind . She is probably still greiving for the dog she lost ..
I would not really call this little guy you have available a puppy as he is potty trained and he is well socialized and sounds to me like he is a real little trooper .. He is an adolescent ..
If she does not fall in love with him and if you have any concerns about her and the way she relates to the dog do not give her the dog ..
Wait . The perfect family will find him ..
He sounds like a wonderful little dog ... He deserves a special home ..
 

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Amanda, you have no idea how hard it is to not keep him.. but two puppies are a little more than I can handle at this point.
We are moving later this year, and will be travelling a lot back and forth while we construct a building and then look for a house.

I hope they get along great, the vet said she is a wonderful woman, so I'm crossing my fingers.
 
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