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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Ok since I am being very truthful and did witness this all then I will just go ahead and post the website. Sorry for all the hoopla I just didn't want to do too much out of anger. But to get the facts straight it was a while ago that I was at her house. Last May I think. I just found her new website this weekend. I didn't realize until I saw her website it looked like she really turned into a puppy mill. She actually looked close to a puppy mill to me in May but was still seeking help and advice from my breeder so I didn't really know what to think. Anyway, without further a due harvestmoondoggies.com ..

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#22 ·
I looked at the web site and she seems to price her puppy s really strange. One she says is very rare but the puppy will end up all cream I bet .
Tan/tri-color male. Buff/ white/ blaze face. $1,900 Very Rare. Black puppy's go for less than half of her so called rare one. And Black and white are more too. I bet she just charges what she thinks someone will pay or makes the dog seem rare just by saying so. She has curly genetic's in her lines too. I wish she showed the bitches and dogs she has I wounder how many breeding Havanese she has? So the moral of the story is just because one shows dogs it doesn't mean they are good breeders and have the best interest for our precious Havanese.:(
 
#23 ·
Good that you posted. I almost feel there should be a section on the forum, pointing out questionable breeders. We can not stop these bad breeders, but at least we can make people stop and look a little harder at some of these people. Maybe it would slow down their sales and put them out of business..... We are only pointing out what's there for everyone to see. It's just that some people don't know what to look for.
 
#24 ·
Suzi,
I don't see anything that says she shows her dogs. Maybe I didn't look that hard. I think the studs she uses are show, but that doesn't mean she owns the studs. The person who owns the studs, should not be breeding with her.....!
 
#28 ·
Wow what an eye opener.....

Buy now before someone beats you to it!!!
Crazy prices that I can't make sense of. When I was looking the prices were the same for all pups in the litter...
She is charging a lot too, ok if you were buying from a breeder who is reputable but people might think that because the pricing is what they would expect to pay that they are buying quality.
"persistent perfection"
"DNA studies to create impeccable Havanese dogs"
Wow these must be the most amazing dogs in the world!

I hate how it sounds so mechanical... your not creating puppies!!
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
I know, I guess the website really speaks for its self. I'm really not sure why she talks about the DNA tests. I heard that she had to test them to make sure who the father was because she couldn't keep up with it. She does have one GCH male but he isn't that young and of course she wasn't the one that showed him. I'm not sure if she has any other CH dogs. Like I said she had lots of dogs but she is not currently showing them. I hope people can educate themselves with this example. It would be interesting if or what proof she could actually come up with. What's sad is she has a family member and the family member's spouse that are vets. So a lot of things she can put off on them and sound credible. I really have no ill will towards this lady she was really nice to me and she wasn't mean to the dogs accept in my eyes keeping them in the electric fence. She may have a different fence set up now. I'm just disgusted at what she is doing to this breed I love so much. It's funny one of the big red flags for a not so great breeder is advertising in major newspapers, and that is where I saw her ad and website. It's just sad that the general public doesn't know this!

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#30 ·
Tia said:
Wow what an eye opener.....

Buy now before someone beats you to it!!!
Crazy prices that I can't make sense of. When I was looking the prices were the same for all pups in the litter...
She is charging a lot too, ok if you were buying from a breeder who is reputable but people might think that because the pricing is what they would expect to pay that they are buying quality.
"persistent perfection"
"DNA studies to create impeccable Havanese dogs"
Wow these must be the most amazing dogs in the world!

I hate how it sounds so mechanical... your not creating puppies!!
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I love black Havanese they don't show the dirt:pound: I would pay more for that not less:pound: And I really think the one she says is so rare will be all cream very fast. Poor little Havies.:(
 
#31 ·
windym300 said:
I know, I guess the website really speaks for its self. I'm really not sure why she talks about the DNA tests. I heard that she had to test them to make sure who the father was because she couldn't keep up with it. She does have one GCH male but he isn't that young and of course she wasn't the one that showed him. I'm not sure if she has any other CH dogs. Like I said she had lots of dogs but she is not currently showing them. I hope people can educate themselves with this example. It would be interesting if or what proof she could actually come up with. What's sad is she has a family member and the family member's spouse that are vets. So a lot of things she can put off on them and sound credible. I really have no ill will towards this lady she was really nice to me and she wasn't mean to the dogs accept in my eyes keeping them in the electric fence. She may have a different fence set up now. I'm just disgusted at what she is doing to this breed I love so much. It's funny one of the big red flags for a not so great breeder is advertising in major newspapers, and that is where I saw her ad and website. It's just sad that the general public doesn't know this!

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I hope the dogs are not out side all the time.
 
#32 ·
Why can you mention the website?

I'm sorry, maybe I'm too new in all these, but I think is very important to help prevent others from breeders that are not doing the right thing...
... Also I'm extra curious, if you don't feel comfortable publishing the web here, could you send it to me by pm?

Thanks!
 
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